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Messages - Ed Vette

#466
Big Blue Huddle / Re: TECHNICAL ISSUES
March 17, 2024, 11:58:06 AM
How can he get the mobile App for his phone? I don't recall.
#467
Big Blue Huddle / Re: TECHNICAL ISSUES
March 17, 2024, 11:12:22 AM
Have all the issues been resolved Rich? Andrew can't get on because TapaTalk is disabled.
#468
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 15, 2024, 09:49:22 PMUnfortunately, JJ McCarthy is very difficult to get a good evaluation. It's not his fault. It was the system he was playing in where he wasn't asked to be the driver of that Offense. Sure, you can look at his mechanics and you can determine his other attributes but in very limited amount of snaps. Out of all the QB's in this draft he never stood out as a player who made huge throws or great eye popping plays.

He's going to need a team where he can sit and develop for at least one season.

There is a huge jump going from College to the NFL. He has the ability to work within a system and play in structure, so that's a big plus for him. He just hasn't been exposed to enough game situations to be a day one starter.

Perhaps he may be a good pick for the Giants since Daniel Jones will be the starter in 2024. But not at the number six pick. There are however a lot of teams looking for a QB and I don't see him falling to the second round.

There are three QBs in this draft that are at a level above the rest. That is Williams, Maye and Daniels. Those three are day one starters or close to it. Daniels will need a team where the Offense can be built around him. Same for Calib. Maye has the complete package and would thrive here in NY. Bo Nix has great talent too but even though he's the most experienced, he's a checkdowns QB too and misses opportunity downfield and when he runs, he loses sight of anything else. Penix unfortunately has that injury history. I would rule him and Daniels out for the Giants after their experience with Jones.

All of them will have an adjustment from working Under Center, to the difference in the Hash and where the ball is placed, to motion, to reading progressions, complex defenses and Clap to Cadence.

I have to say that I would be thrilled to get Maye or Daniels and if Williams gets past their mental toughness evaluation, he's a potential generational talent. I would be ok with Nix, Penix and McCarthy trading up from round two to mid first round.


#469
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:44:29 AM"Pushing JJ McCarthy"  Seriously?

This thread posed a question.   There are probably a dozen or so posts on this thread that provide evidence that leads to the conclusion that he is a top-ten prospect.   

As for Daniel Jones, you and other strong critics declared yourselves right because injuries are putting a premature end to his career.  I am not sure what that has to do with the grief you gave people on this thread.

Despite your harsh and extreme claims to the contrary, I am not clueless about QBs.
Ok Rich...
#470
The perfect analogy would be going to Shop-Rite and they were out of Avocados and then tell everyone that Shop-Rite doesn't carry Avocados.

Now after going back five years once a week, and still no Avocados... Then they don't carry Avacados.

#471
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:24:39 AMThere was nothing extreme about saying JJ was top ten talent.  So there was absolutely no need for you to "provide balance".   As for jumping on contrary opinions, just look how you went after people for saying JJ was top 10.


How many posts have you put up pushing JJ McCarthy, Rich? Dozens and dozens.

I see you even started another Daniel Jones thread defending him.
#472
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:09:34 AMEd,

You gave the people who recognized that McCarthy was a top-10 prospect a lot of grief.  Instead of acknowledging that maybe the negative comments were misguided, now you are accusing them of "gloating" and taking "victory laps" when they point out that they were proven correct.

It wouldn't hurt to simply acknowledge that some people recognized JJ's talent very early on in the process and that maybe giving them grief for doing so was ill-advised.
Nobody is proven correct Rich. Do I need to repeat myself that it will take years to see who is correct. And again you put me in a position to provide balance here. You've done the same thing with Jones the last five years. Btw, why is it so important for you to be right that you jump on every post contrary to your opinion. Yes, it's an opinion because you're a fan just like everyone else here.
#473
Quote from: Philosophers on March 17, 2024, 09:10:39 AMIn watching it, I think his description of what he sees is actually pretty good but it's the premise that showing a few misreads (even when huge plays occur) shows an inadequacy in a player is odd as a tape of mistakes can be made on every player.

It's the totality that ultimately matters.
Every evaluation podcast does that whether it's pro or con. It's clear the person knows his xxxx, it's just limited to a few plays so it fits his narrative. It's up to the viewer to look into it further or to form an opinion off a body of work. It's good to have both posted in my opinion. Otherwise the site is viewed as slanted. Especially if one member is pushing a narrative incessantly. Thus the high amount of pages.

That's why I limit what I post to mostly what I have observed and my opinion. In the case of JJ McCarthy it's been the limited amount of film, working behind an outstanding Rushing Attack and the lack of pressure he faced, balanced with the fact that he was a winner, he played under a great Coach in a Pro Style offense, has plenty of arm and is mobile. It is clear however even according to Phil Simms, that he will need to be brought along and not start right away. He even said that he doesn't see him as a top ten pick.
No matter where he gets drafted, some here will gloat and take a victory lap. How JJ ultimately performs after a few years will be the true test. Look at Daniel Jones... he's still given a lifeline and supported by a GM who appears to have put his reputation on the line if he passes on a QB in the first two rounds.
#474
The Front Porch / Re: Strands anyone?
March 17, 2024, 09:43:26 AM
Strands #14
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#475
The Front Porch / Re: NYT "Connections" Game
March 17, 2024, 09:42:53 AM
Connections
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#476
Wordle 1,002 3/6

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#477
Quote from: Sem on March 16, 2024, 08:26:46 PMIs she in this, or are you thinking of Madam Secretary?
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#478
Wilson is a F/A next season. Fields is also unless they exercise his 5th year option. Why would they.

So which organization is more dysfunctional? It ain't the Giants. Sitting pretty at six.
#479
Now if he can only handle a stunt and a Bull Rush...
#480
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Free agency score card
March 16, 2024, 05:01:17 PM
Now work on CB.