Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 13, 2024, 05:06:34 PMWow...you are a busy man. One thing that grabbed me as I read your post, was that you have a "Family History" page. My biggest life long hobby has been genealogy, and I've been at it for close to 50 years and have traveled all over the northeast and southward from New York to visit historical societies, cemeteries, old court house records, town historians, etc. I just published a 600+ page book on my family history. It took me a couple years to write (and rewrite a hundred times as I continually proofed it) my own family history, as well as both European and early American history. I guess we have more in common than our love/hate relationship with the Giants (99% love of course)

Then there's days the phone never rings and I wonder if it's broken.

That book is very cool, maybe share more about how you got started. Do you have an Ancestry Account and did the DNA test?

Quick story. My family on my mother's side has a family plot that was started by my Great Grandfather. I noticed that my Grandmother's father was not buried there. Nobody alive knew why, including my Aunts and Uncles who were still alive at the time. After years of research, we went to a seminar and the person presenting it was able to find his death certificate. He was buried at Calvary Cemetery in Queens. Three million people are buried there. We called and got the plot and section number not realizing how big this place was and drove there on a Sunday. Well, we were frustrated but found the section which was also huge. Finally I told Linda to stop the car and I'll get out and look at the stone foundations and get an idea where we were. Well, he was buried seven rows and right in line to where the car stopped. The kind of thing that raises the hair on your arms.

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I have 3400 contacts on my phone. I pay more for the iPhone so I won't get hacked. I also disable Journaling so it's not discoverable.

I have the Pro Camera and it takes excellent pictures that I can edit easily. I use it for business and social media. I have several Groups I own on FB, one is for my HS Class and I've put thousands of pictures up there. Another is Family History. One for my Town and I have to approve all threads there along with my Moderators. I don't just get text messages, I also get Messenger messages during the day. Then there is this place, where i have to read most of the posts here and then deal with issues.

Needless to say, I'm engaged all day. On a busy day I can get 50 or more calls, 30 or more texts and 15-20 Messenger messages from people in town.

Someday Lenn, I'll be just like you and it will be strange at first, I'm sure. But for now, if I leave the phone at home or think I lost it, It's a feeling of dread.     

I don't see how they do it without giving up this year's 2 and next year's 1st at the very least. Realistically, the only one that might work is with the Chargers.

It doesn't mean they will, but they are exploring their options.

https://x.com/WBG84/status/1767958466348376292?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 13, 2024, 12:28:58 PMI'll add this:  We regularly see ascending teams like Houston last year,  that have a ton of cap space to fill roster gaps or re-sign guys.  Trading for and signing big names puts teams in the situation that they will never be both ascending and have a lot of cap space. 

Houston's situation is ideal and I realize certain things have to happen to get there but it doesn't make it easier to swallow that on order to get competitive the team had to spend big bucks.  Just like having a QB on a 1st contract is a big advantage so is having players at other premium positions.   

The Giants have let those years with Thomas and Dex go by without making any improvements and now have added Burns.  There is just something about having a lot of big contracts on a team that hasnt won many games that bothers me.  Right or wrong that's part of my issue with this.

I think the core or root of the problem is the turnover in the Coaching Staff. I don't need to explain to you what I mean by this. I'm sure you know.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 13, 2024, 12:00:43 PMTrue.  Right now Dex and Burns cap hit for that year is set to be about 53 million. A lot can change that.  Thibodeaux is not under contract that far out.  He would either be under a 5th year option, not on the team or extended. 

So assuming no restructures and that cap number the 53 million is about 17.5% of the cap space.  Worrying about that now is probably getting way ahead of ourselves, but I hope someone in the organization is looking at that. 

Thomas, Dex and Burns represent $69mm or 26% of the 2024 Cap. In 2026, Spotrac anticipates the cap will be $361mm so their Cap will be 71.7mm or 20% of the Cap. If Jones is still here, his cap hit would be $58mm or 16% of the cap. The estimated Cap Space that far ahead is $162mm and that's with Waller's $17mm but without the 5th-year option of Thibs and Neal. They look good from here.

The price was high but the Salary Cap in 2026 will be near $300 million. Burns will still be in his prime. So should the Giants.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on March 13, 2024, 09:45:06 AMDillon and Singletary would be a nice one-two punch.

Bing!

I'd like a bruising N/S RB or a FB hybrid.

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 13, 2024, 10:29:34 AMWhy not bring Breida back ?

I just threw up in my mouth. Lol

Quote from: Gmo11 on March 13, 2024, 10:35:35 AMI'm a big fan of the deal personally.  It ended up being a 2nd and 5th round pick next year for the most part. And what you're getting is a proven commodity that's only 26 years old. 

I love Josh Allen (LB).  I loved him coming out of college.  I was stunned to see him sitting there begging the Giants to take him, and I was ever more stunned to see them pass on him for a mediocre at best QB.  If you gave me the option of one or the other:  Burns trade + Contract or Allen with the contract I'm obviously going to pick Allen. But it's not quite that simple.  We don't know if he wanted to play for the Giants, we don't know if the new DC prefers Burns for his system for some reason.  Not to mention the Jags franchised tagged him.  As well they should.

Are there other free agents that I would prefer to Burns though?  I don't really see any.  Hunter is costing at least that much and he's almost 30 and Chase Young is probably the next guy after that I'd be interested and depending on who you talk to around here he's an outright bust. 

I think Burns better than what else is out there and while the price is hefty if he delivers 10+ sacks on one side and Kayvon delivers 10+ on the other side I don't think anybody will be too worried about the 2nd round pick.  Like any signing or trade the ultimate justification will come when we see them play but given the information at hand, and the fact that very recently a trade of 2 first rounders and a third was offered, I think the Giants robbed the Panthers blind on this deal.

Imagine being a Raiders fan that draft day, lol

Big hole. I think two big holes unless they are counting on Hawkins and Flott. Let's see how the day ends.

Quote from: JT39 on March 13, 2024, 10:28:38 AMhe was tagged and Jacksonville has shown no interest in trading him, so its 2 different situations.

17.5 sacks... how big would that contract be, $200 million? Plus two first round picks. I don't think he's leaving Jacksonville this year.

The Jaguars placed the NFL's non-exclusive franchise tag on Allen, meaning he can negotiate and sign with another team. The Jaguars would have the right to match the offer; if the Jaguars did not match the offer in that scenario, they would receive two first-round draft selections from the team that signed Allen.

https://www.jaguars.com/news/official-jaguars-place-franchise-tag-on-josh-allen