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#812
OFFENSE

Hero

Jashaun Corbin
(note-  Shep was short the 15 snaps with all but his 75.5 would have given him a hero designation)

Goats

Wan'Dale Robinson
Parris Campbell
Jalin Hyatt
John Michael Schmitz Jr.
Ben Bredeson
Isaiah Hodgins
Justin Pugh
Tommy DeVito


DEFENSE

Heroes

Dexter Lawrence (elite)
Cor'Dale Flott
A'Shawn Robinson

Goats

D.J. Davidson
Rakeem Nunez-Roches
Bobby McCain
Jason Pinnock
Jihad Ward
Deonte Banks
#814
I heard some in the media criticize Dex for not fielding media questions after the game.


https://x.com/bigblueview/status/1724106861409178088?s=20


How on earth did the media fail to figure out it was Dex's birthday???  :what:

#815
How low to draft one straight up with their first-round pick?


How low to be able to trade up and acquire an elite QB prospect?


This question is most focused on the early draft followers and college football watchers.
#816
If the Giants continue to lose, they will be in a position to turn the franchise around by drafting an elite QB prospect.

The Jets are very unlikely to make the playoffs, and their prospects at QB (an aged Rodgers coming off a serious injury or a QB who has shown to be a bust) are murky at best.
#817
Which coaches, front office, and support people would you show the door after the season?
#818
It seems like whenever the Giants play the Cowboys in Dallas, they better set up a MASH unit to handle all the injuries.   This game was no different.


QuoteEarlier in the game, left tackle Andrew Thomas, playing in his second game after missing seven contests with a hamstring injury suffered in Week 1, left the game with a knee injury but was able to return. During his absence, Justin Pugh moved to left tackle, and Marcus McKethan came in at left guard.

Outside linebacker Kayvon Thibodeaux was ruled out of the game with a concussion suffered in the third quarter. Cornerbacks Cor'Dale Flott (shoulder) and Deonte Banks (ankle) also exited the game in the third quarter.

Both Flott and Banks were initially listed as questionable to return. Flott was ruled out to start the fourth quarter.

Running back Saquon Barkley appeared to tweak his right ankle and was spotted getting it retaped on the sideline. The rookie wide receiver appeared to be dinged on quarterback Tommy DeVito's pass that was intended for him in the third quarter but was picked off.

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/gameday/giants-injuries-piling-up-as-cowboys-pile-on

#820
The suffering we have had to endure this season is only justified if the Giants acquire an elite QB prospect who will be the franchise's QB for the next decade plus.
#822
Big Blue Huddle / Giants VS Cowboys game thread
November 12, 2023, 03:02:26 PM
Post game comments here
#823
Big Blue Huddle / Passing off speculation as "News"
November 12, 2023, 11:19:48 AM
I first came across this when NFL insider Dov Kleiman reported it as news:

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1723720326993883577?s=20

As I am a careful consumer of information, I went to the source article:


QuoteJoe Schoen and Brian Daboll are under pressure on Sunday to start fielding a respectable, consistently competitive Giants team.

John Mara and Steve Tisch have remained silent as a season that began with players using the words "Super Bowl" has descended into dysfunction.

But precedent shows there is only so much embarrassment the Giants' co-owners can take. And another 40-0 massacre against the Dallas Cowboys, which is 100% on the table Sunday, will turn up the heat inside a building where it's already getting uncomfortable.

The issue I have is that Pat isn't reporting on what he is hearing or learning is going on inside the organization; he simply speculated based on "past precedent," which his not actually news.  At least that is not news based on a proper definition
#826
Big Blue Huddle / Giants and Cowboys injury status
November 10, 2023, 03:33:29 PM
#828
QuoteWheeler was not drafted out of college due to injuries and off-the-field issues.[5] On April 30, 2017, the New York Giants signed Wheeler as an undrafted free agent. He received a three-year, $1.68 million contract that includes $30,000 guaranteed and a signing bonus of $20,000.[11][12] As one of the top undrafted free agents, Wheeler received multiple offers and opted to sign with New York, who gave him one of the largest contracts among undrafted free agents.[13]

He competed with Adam Bisnowaty and Michael Bowie throughout training camp for the job as the backup offensive tackle.[14] Head coach Ben McAdoo named Wheeler the backup left tackle, behind Ereck Flowers, to begin the regular season.[15]

On October 1, 2017, Wheeler made his regular season debut in the Giants' 23–25 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He earned his first career start against the Kansas City Chiefs in relief of injured Justin Pugh, and backup Bobby Hart.[16]

Wheeler entered the 2018 season as a backup tackle behind left tackle Nate Solder and right tackle Ereck Flowers. In Week 3, Wheeler was named the starting right tackle after struggles from Ereck Flowers, and remained there the rest of the season.[17]

Wheeler was waived/injured by the Giants during final roster cuts on August 31, 2019,[18] and reverted to the team's injured reserve list the next day. He was waived from injured reserve with an injury settlement on September 9.[19]


There were reasons teams didn't draft Wheeler
QuoteOn December 19, 2015, Wheeler was involved in an incident on the USC campus. Los Angeles Police responded to a call at 8:45 AM at an apartment in South Los Angeles near the USC campus. The police arrived and a suspect, who was identified as Wheeler, was confronted by police who were concerned he might grab a weapon and got into an altercation with them that led the police to shoot him with multiple bean bag rounds, a type of non-lethal force.[28] Wheeler was detained by the police but not arrested, and was instead transported to a local hospital to be held under protective custody for a psychiatric evaluation.[29] As a result of the incident, Wheeler missed the Holiday Bowl.[5] Wheeler later apologized for the incident.[30

He later played for the Seahawks until this:

QuoteFormer NFL player Chad Wheeler was found guilty on Thursday for two counts of domestic violence following an incident in 2021 with his then-girlfriend, Alleah Taylor, according to ESPN's Brady Henderson.

The incident took place when Wheeler was playing for the Seahawks, and was waived by the team after it took place. Wheeler hasn't been on an NFL team since.

The charges against him accused him of pinning Taylor down, choking her twice until she lost consciousness, and expressing surprise when she regained consciousness.

Taylor suffered severe injuries, including a fractured humerus and dislocated elbow. A King County jury found Wheeler guilty of first- and second-degree assault/domestic violence, but not guilty of unlawful imprisonment.

Wheeler, who has bipolar disorder, pleaded not guilty, claiming he was experiencing a "manic episode". Taylor expressed uncertainty about the alleged assault being related to Wheeler's mental health, according to the report.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Wheeler

https://brobible.com/culture/article/the-50-best-new-memes-taking-off-around-the-internet-today/
#830
Big Blue Huddle / Giants injury report
November 09, 2023, 03:53:05 PM
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
GIANTS INJURY REPORT 11/9

DNP:
G Mark Glowinski (Personal Matter)
CB Adoree' Jackson (Concussion/Neck)
RB Deon Jackson (Concussion)
T Evan Neal (Ankle)

Limited:
WR Parris Campbell (Hamstring)
RB Jashaun Corbin (Hamstring)
OLB Azeez Ojulari (Ankle)
T Andrew Thomas (Hamstring

Full:
S Dane Belton (Back)
OL Sean Harlow (Personal Matter)
DL Dexter Lawrence (Rest)
OL Justin Pugh (Ankle)
#832
Granted the Bears own both picks


Panthers (1-7)
Bears (2-7)
#834
Big Blue Huddle / Wink on McKinney
November 09, 2023, 12:45:26 PM
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Wink Martindale spoke candidly about Xavier McKinney's comments following Sunday's loss.

They came as a surprise and hurt. It's not something that's happened to #giants DC before 

Martindale said his message to the safety was that his public grievances hurt the locker room.

https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1722669000872591492?s=20



Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Giants DC Wink Martindale says Xavier McKinney's comments surprised him because it's never happened to Martindale in his career. He told McKinney "it hurts the locker room and it hurts the defense."

He brought it up to all the captains, none of whom agreed with McKinney. Martindale: "We like confrontation." Otherwise something "grows" that shouldn't.

Asked if McKinney will be in his same starting FS role this week at Cowboys, Martindale says: "You're gonna have to talk to Dabes about that.... But as of right now we'll plan on having him in his usual role."

Martindale says he's hurt by this and doesn't know how he would have reacted if he'd heard this Sunday and had an opportunity to speak sooner #Giants
#835
Big Blue Huddle / Pressure breaks pipes
November 09, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
#836
To bet on the Giants on Sunday, how many points would you need to given?