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I had previously identified a lack of intellectual consistency as the reason Mike Lombardi failed as a GM.  His last podcast showed that shortcoming quite vividly.  Immediately after using DJ's bad game as proof that Jones is a bad quarterback and the Giants were foolish to have re-signed him, he goes on to make a huge number of excuses as to why Joe Burrow was performing worse than Daniel Jones.  Apparently a lack of protection is a legit reason for a QB's bad performance when talking about Burrow, but not for Jones (who has an even worse offensive line)

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 06, 2023, 06:54:29 PMMaybe, but since Jones was drafted we have already been through a handful of O line coaches, all of whom keep getting fired. We've been through 3 head coaches so far. We've been through 4 offensive coordinators plus the former offensive coordinator of Josh Allen, considered one of the top offensive minds in the game today. We've thrown countless resources at the O line. We have spent a ton of money and draft capital on wide receivers and tight ends. We have one of the highest paid RBs in the league. We keep throwing resources at the offense, year after year, and the results don't improve.

The only thing that has stayed the same all this time has been Daniel Jones. Maybe it's time to look at him instead of only looking at what's around him.

How did things go in 2021 when Jones got hurt?  Did the O-line soar?

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The following is an actual question given on a University of Arizona chemistry midterm, and an actual answer turned in by a student.

The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving, which is unlikely. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1...If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2...If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.

The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct..... ...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God."

THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.

I think the league got this one right.  Someone who just suffered a concussion should not be held to the same standard as an uninjured player.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1710351684940029959?s=20

I found this on Reddit.  I remember this circulating when they were debating drafting Sewell or Chase. 

https://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1710362925137834338?s=20

Thought this might be interesting since we spend so much time talking about 1st round prospects



Detailed writeups here


https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/grading-every-first-round-rookie-at-nfls-quarter-mark/

Quote from: True Blue on October 06, 2023, 12:16:21 PMNo one said it is easy, but you gotta keep trying until you find it.

Did you even read what I posted, or did you just read the headline and post a response?

Quote from: True Blue on October 06, 2023, 12:18:59 PMThen DJ lacks mental toughness to overcome it. Receivers are open, he has to man up and stop playing afraid. He is paid the big bucks to do so.

Joe didn't say "Daniel Jones", he said "quarterback".   He then went on to talk about how Brady, Peyton Manning, and Rodgers were all affected when their lines played poorly.

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 06, 2023, 12:14:47 PMAgain fail to upgrade implies an effort wasn't made when there was.  It's misleading.  On paper the line was upgraded before the 2022 season with the drafting of Neal plus the other FA signings over what the Giants had in 2021.  On paper the line was upgraded before the 2023 with the drafting of the center in the 2nd round.  But again what was on paper as an upgrade hasn't resulted in better line play.

It's misleading to say this is a matter of Schoen not upgrading. 

Would it be misleading to say Daniel Jones played poorly on Monday night because he tried to play well?

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 06, 2023, 11:14:18 AMDidn't Schoen spend a 2nd round pick on a center and multiple picks including the 7th overall pick last year on the offensive line?  Not sure how you can say he ignored the line or hasn't tried to upgrade the line.  Investments have been there results haven't. 

Greg,

Joe Banner said Schoen failed to "upgrade" the line, not "invest" in the line. 

It's as if someone had invested all their retirement savings in Enron (or FTX if you want a more modern reference).  You can say that person invested in their retirement, but in reality, they didn't invest wisely in their retirement, and now they have no money to live on.

Mike Lombardi's I Told You So article about Daniel Jones (the title is admittedly a bit misleading but Mike chose that title).

https://www.vsin.com/nfl/michael-lombardi-a-great-quarterback-is-hard-to-find/


Here is his money line, so to speak:

QuoteDoes anyone still believe that Daniel Jones can win a Super Bowl?  The Giants front office does. Not many Giants fans would echo that belief.  It made no sense to pay Jones this past offseason.  Nothing in his play suggested he could raise his level of play. In fact, when the game got tougher against tougher competition, he faded.  Jones is a great person. He's intelligent, athletic and shows the skills needed to play the position, but he cannot play fast when the game speeds up requiring him to make the right decision quickly.

https://www.vsin.com/nfl/michael-lombardi-a-great-quarterback-is-hard-to-find/

I get a sense not everyone watched the video. 

Perhaps the most relevant line from Joe Banner, in reference to Jones not doing well on the plays that he has good protection: "People don't understand the psyche once a QB loses confidence in his offensive line.  It permeates everything he does including the plays in which he has good protection"