Big Blue Huddle

https://x.com/PhilSimmsQB/status/1774140982486872299?s=20

Ranking Best Supporting Casts For Top Pick Quarterbacks Of The Last 20 Years

https://www.the33rdteam.com/ranking-best-supporting-casts-for-top-pick-quarterbacks-of-the-last-20-years/

What the people making the unsubstantiated claims about the Giants having to dumb down the play book for Daniel Jones never explain is this:

The mental aspect of the game is heavily scouted (and readily apparent) by teams.   Daniel Jones struggled to understand the NFL game according to some of his harshest critics but Shurmur and Gettleman went ahead and drafted him sixth overall (Lock was not a first-round pick)

Schoen and Daboll also learned that Jones is supposedly limited mentally, yet they signed him to a big-ticket contract (where the Broncos moved on from Lock).

The number of people I need to believe are below average in intelligence and/or judgment is just too much for me.

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Quote from: londonblue on March 30, 2024, 07:37:49 AMIf Maye falls to 6 I would be astonished if we did not turn in our card in record time. His high ceiling, low floor, big body, hero ball mentality simply has to remind Daboll and Schoen of Allen. This does not mean he is or will be Allen level in NFL but to me of all the QB in this draft he is the one I think fits our HC most. Of course all the talking him down in the media may be BS and he might well go 2 or 3 with us never having a sniff at him.

I think one thing that is forgotten in the Josh Allen comparisons is just how big of an anomaly Josh Allen really was.   Josh Allen was very inaccurate in college despite his big arm (similar to Maye).  Josh did what is really seen over the past decades: an inaccurate college QB improved his accuracy at the next level.   Historically, QBs tend to be less accurate (or the same), and the next level, they don't improve.  By the NFL, their throwing mechanics are essentially ingrained.   

Drafting Maye thinking he will be another Josh Allen is like expecting lightning to strike twice.

In the end this could prove to be roughly an even deal

The Jets likely get a 3rd rond comp pick for the Jets signing away their edge rusher

The Jets then give the Eagles a 3rd or 2nd round pick in return for their pass rusher

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 30, 2024, 01:19:34 AMIf Schoen drafts a QB at 6 wouldn't it be difficult to fire him and Daboll because they could say we have a QB of our choice not one that was handed to us and we need time to develop him?

Schoen, by virtue of the GM position, has more seasons.  Considering NYG fired Shurmur the year after Jones was drafted suggests a QB will not save Daboll's job if the team stinks again this season.

I tend to lean toward the WR.  The Giant's roster needs to start adding red-chip and blue-chip players.   The team can't be so QB-focused as they pass up an ideal chance to do so.

Admittedly, if a QB the Giants like falls to them at 6, I wouldn't fault them (because they believe that QB could be blue or red chip.

Still, if they go WR for the next few seasons, it will be easier to develop a QB, or any QB behind center will have an easier time of it.

The Jets will send a conditional 2026 third-round pick to the Eagles that improves to a 2026 second-rounder if Reddick reaches 67.5% play time and 10 sacks, the sources said. In 2023, Reddick recorded 11 sacks and 38 tackles in 17 games. He played 74% of the defensive snaps.

Quote from: londonblue on March 29, 2024, 05:44:49 PMMighty...

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Robert Saleh
Dennis Allen

Quote from: londonblue on March 29, 2024, 04:21:01 PMWe have 27 more days of this but I am already at the edge of my interest. If we stay put at 6 it is QB or WR. If we trade up it is a QB. The only mystery and intrigue comes if we trade down. There are only so many ways we can rehash our views on this from now until draft day.

I am focusing on what we do in R2-6 if we do not trade. I think QB is R1 or bust as 5, possibly 6 go R1 and the rest are just bang average future back-up types (Pratt) or look like Greek Gods in shorts but are incapable of mastering the intricacies of the college game in pads and so have zero chance at NFL level (Milton).

Neal,

I agree with the QB in round one or bust.   There isn't a guy in the second tier that has the talent to become a franchise QB.

This is an old Big Blue Banter with Matt Simms that I missed.  I really enjoyed the entire show

Quote from: Sem on March 29, 2024, 02:52:24 PMPossibly, but I don't see a lot of young people looking to make calls on a land line. Young people would likely also need help flicking on the high beams in my '69 Biscayne, or loading/unloading film in a camera. All for the same reason that I wouldn't know how to hitch up a team of horses to a stage coach.   

That was why it was there.  They either lost or broke their phone or their battery was dead (perhaps on charger)