Big Blue Huddle

Aaron Rodgers is a douchebag and always has been. An obnoxious, insufferable, selfish jerk.

Doesn't matter what your politics are. Lying about the vax was sheer douchebaggery. If you are one of the people who thinks the vax is bad or whatever, say that and accept the consequences, which is what several other folks in football did. Aaron Rodgers is only concerned with himself. Always has been. he also thinks he's some kind of independent thinker when really he's just a high profile troll.

I saw the episode of Hard Knocks which shows him talking down to a young Giants defender (can't remember who that was) who had the nerve to stand up to him. Judge for your self. It was clear that Rodgers has no respect for others.

One of my happiest moments as Giants fan was when we kicked his ass in the 2011 playoffs even though the refs did everything they could to try to help him win.

I don't care about Kimmel one way or another, but even mediocre comedians deserve not to be casually accused of pedophilia by a brain-dead QB. 

I think Mike McDaniel is more talented.

I actually got annoyed at the time, I thought the Giants should have won that game.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 28, 2023, 09:54:07 AMThe job of the Head Coach is to win games and put the team in the best position to win games. It was the case with DeVito at the time and it's the case now with Tyrod.

This.

Nothing more, nothing less. The job of any head coach is to win the next football game on the schedule. If you don't understand this, you don't understand professional sports.

He's not being attacked for it and doesn't need to be "defended", the media loves this part of the story like nothing I've seen in years.

Am I the only one here who's not too old to remember another Jersey kid who grew up near Giants Stadium, rooting for the Giants, from an ethnic family, who then attended 3rd-rate football school, and came to the Giants as an undrafted no-name backup who got his chance because of an injury to a starter, and wound up playing really well, taking the place by storm, causing a media sensation and exciting the home fans?

Hmmm I wonder who that could be?

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It's not so much about Daniel Jones's level of play. It's about the injuries. If he weren't hurt, I have no doubt the Giants would keep him around and insist on him as the starter for years. But if he can't come back in time, all bets are off, the Giants will have to move on from him. My guess is that DJ is too physically diminished at this point to remain the starting QB of the NY football Giants.

MetLife is an abomination. A blight on the landscape. The worst that corporate greed has to offer. Just a deflating, depressing place.

I recently went to see the Patriots at Gillette. A beautiful stadium, pleasant facilities, great atmosphere, and even though the traffic out there is murder on game day, there's even a cheap train that links the stadium directly to South Station in Boston.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 20, 2023, 12:19:30 PMI didn't count Collins because the Giants made a major trade-up to acquire Eli Manning even though they had Collins who was only 31 at the time.  If the team felt like they had their franchise QB, they could have traded down for a king's ransom and used those picks to really strengthen the team.

Plus and perhaps more importantly the Giants ended up releasing Collins after they drafted Eli, rather than trading him to another team.

Kerry Collins had a rocket for an arm but he was always a very limited QB and that 2000 season was a fluke that had a lot to do with the defense being excellent. He and the Giants went 4-12 in 2003 leading to the Manning/Rivers draft. Collins then refused to stay with the Giants when Manning was drafted even though he would have surely started the 2004 season if he had. The Giants released him, he wound up with the Raiders but didn't do much with them. And then they acquired Kurt Warner who was the starter through the first 9 games and went 5-4 before Tom Coughlin switched to Manning for the rest of the season.

Sam Howell has got to be one of the worst NFL starting QBS I've ever seen. He made DeVito look like Brady.

I don't think Buffalo are that stupid. But if the opportuinity is there, you have to make such a trade.

The bigger question is whether Daboll survives. It's too early to tell right now. If he's not around next season, the trade no longer makes sense.

Only if he brings a young Tom Brady with him.

I don't think Daboll's 6-1 start last season was luck. I think it was because the regime change gave the team momentum, Daboll was a breath of fresh air after Joe Judge who was possibly the least qualified HC the franchise hired since the early 1970s and looked like a mediocre actor playing a "tough guy" coach on some bad tv movie. In the first half of last season, opposing teams didn't know quite what to expect and the Giants pulled off a bunch of wins because of that, and because things came together for them personnel-wise. Also, Jones played to his full potential, and with Barkley back, the team clicked, for a while.

Once teams caught on to what the Giants were doing, on offense and defense, it all came to a screeching halt. Right now, these coaches are clearly fresh out of ideas. Daboll looks like a guy who just doesn't know what to do. He is making poor decisions and is unable to explain them in his pressers. Sorry, it's not about De Vito. The Giants have fielded bad QBs in the past. I mean really bad. But even then they were competitive. De Vito didn't give up 49 points yesterday. I remember bad seasons but I don't remember seasons with blowouts like this, the game being over in the 1st quarter and just getting worse from there. Games where there's no hope at all. The Giants were often losers, but they were tragic losers, fighting hard. Even in the 70s. This feels different.

May I remind everyone that this season is far from over. They are 2-8 and have 7 more games to play. Things could get much uglier. If they just get blown out in every game - and that could happen - I'm sorry but all your declarations about how De Vito sucks and no coach could win with him, or about how you don't fire another coach after two seasons, or all the other stuff, go right out the window. You can't have a team lose game after game by 30-40 points. Especially if it happens at Met Life. You don't even need a head coach for that. You can get a similar result with the players coaching themselves.

If the Giants manage to play competitive football down the stretch and get a couple more wins in the the process, finishing 4-13 but giving the fans some hope to cling to for next season, Daboll survives. But let's say the Giants lose their rest of their games in blowouts - sorry but that's not tenable, even for a stiff like John Mara. Schoen, who is still much better at his job than Gettleman was, might be told that he has more time to try to right the ship and he and Mara go shopping for yet another coach, and they draft J J McCarthy or Drake. They will probably get the head coach hire wrong again, but that's another story. 

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 13, 2023, 09:26:02 AMLet's see if Carl tells it like it is today. I think he exposes all the problems but falls short of being critical of the GM and HC. You don't xxxx where you eat.

The dude works for the Giants media. He's a good guy but he's never going to directly criticize leadership.

His body was like a rubber band. He just never got hurt. It was unbelievable.