Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: jimc on November 15, 2022, 02:34:23 PMIt's not only about who the DC is, but what quality assistants can he hire or bring with him.

Yes, and this is one of those things that we fans are terrible at assessing.  Remember when the board was reveling in how we got Marc Columbo and how he was going to fix our OL?  Fired mid-year and still unemployed.  Or how Sean Spencer was Coach Chaos who was going to turn our guys into ferocious All-Worlders?  Gone back to the college ranks from whence he came.  And I'm sure there were others.

Quote from: state_property on November 15, 2022, 01:50:19 PMDivision-wise, we need to go 3-3 at least....4-32 would be pretty much guaranteeing a play-off spot.

If we can sweep Commanders and split with Dallas, I would be happu.  Thy way the Eagles are playing I would be surprised if we split with them, and I see us taking a loss against the Vikes.

We beat the Lions and Colts and we should be in.

If the Commanders nee' Redskins can beat the Eagles . . .

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 15, 2022, 12:07:44 PMFrom Ralph V

So you are talking about paying Barkley in excess of $16 million per season and committing four years.  Would you be comfortable with that sort of contract?

Is there a price line (or year line) where you think the Giants should walk away?

No.  The most I would invest in Barkley is the transition tag.

Quote from: Rambo89 on November 15, 2022, 11:07:53 AMThe comment that GloryDays made is that Daniel Jones hasn't had time to throw.  That simply isn't true based upon the facts.  Same goes for the comment on the Giants not having a decent offensive line which they do. 

If you had actually read what I was responding too and my comments on it rather than going into your blind Daniel Jones defense mode you would have seen that.

Nope, which makes you ask are these sacks a result of being coverage sacks (no receivers being open), Jones being indecisive or something else?

He currently has two legit starting receivers and a decent TE (once Bellinger is back).  Only thing the Giants lack in the receiving game is a legit #1 game breaking WR.  And yes, that is a big need that would definitely help Jones.

This is an interesting breakdown.  The gist is that time to throw is not positively correlated with success, even from a clean pocket.  So maybe those who cite DJ's time to throw average are making the opposite point they think they are making?

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-the-perfect-timing-a-deeper-dive-into-time-to-throw-data

Quote from: Trench on November 15, 2022, 10:59:16 AMQuestion to ask is:

Traditionally, do most QBs who have the top "time to throw" stats also rank in the top of "getting sacked"?

This won't fully answer your question, but this page lists "Pocket time" for each QB, among other things, which presumably screens out the artificial 'time to throw' that comes from things like 'scramble for your life plays' and roll-outs to subsidize the OL.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

That doesn't look like a guy who's afraid to air it out.  It's ironic how the things that DJ is now being criticized for, 'can't throw long', 'can't throw it into tight spots' are exactly the things that got him that (ridiculous, IMO) Danny Dimes nickname in his rookie year.

Quote from: Slugsy-Narrows on November 15, 2022, 10:37:15 AMWhat say you?


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I say that less than a year out from his second ACL and at age 30 I want no part of him.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 15, 2022, 08:50:13 AMWhen a team needed to put a clause in the contract that required Murray to do his homework, that was a HUGE red flag.   Regardless of its removal, when you can't trust your QB's work ethic, you should never had signed him to any sort of contract.

At least that is something no one has criticized DJ for.  I think that it is pretty universally recognized here that no matter what anyone thinks of his play, no one questions his work effort, professionalism, and leadership.

Quote from: T200 on November 15, 2022, 08:42:58 AMI will take this opportunity to thank Dave Gettleman for drafting Thomas.

Nah, I give the credit to @Painter 

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 15, 2022, 08:44:23 AMNotice the one traditional drop back resulted in an immediate sack.  While we are set at LT, the rest of the line is a mess of backup-caliber talent.  Worse, we are on our third string LG and second string RT

Oh but hey, look at that average time to throw.   

I think that the long run that contract AZ gave Murray is going to make our Golladay pink elephant look like a steal.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 14, 2022, 07:55:39 PMTrue

Yeah, maybe.  But there is a very sizable contingent that seem to be unable to say anything about something he does well without appending a great big "BUT . . .". 

With our coaching staff's propensity to tailor the game plan to the opponent, I thought this was both interesting and maybe a sign for Sunday.

Rushing yards given up to QBs by Detroit:

Hurts - 90
Wentz - 23
Cousins - -1
Geno - 49
Zappe - 5
Dak - 0
Tua - 19
Rodgers - 40
Fields - 147

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 14, 2022, 06:45:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/bigblueview/status/1592295830572371968

That's interesting.  I never realized that the waiver order was based on current records, not the previous year's record.

Quote from: killarich on November 14, 2022, 06:33:55 PM

We are just one big dysfunctional family 🤗

Great rant.