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If Daboll was passing the buck...geeze.  what's next? Anger management? This is red meat for the scribes if there's a meal there. Hot seat stuff.

Fifteen years ago I took an Exec Development course at Columbia focused around Emotional Intelligence in a diverse (global business) and high pressure environment.

The first thing we learnt is that the foundation stone for EI is emotional self-control. Daboll does not appear to have any. It can be developed and there are professional coaches, tools and techniques to help. Schoen should be exploring them all with Daboll.

Unfortunately middle aged shouty white guys generally (there are always exceptions) do not respond well to soft skills coaching in my experience but we have to try.

Quote from: Gman329 on January 15, 2024, 03:13:58 PMWow! This reads like a true account, coming from many leaks inside the building - and not just Wink. There is a Daboll quote, horrible if true, that is too specific to be made up. It's also in line with a bunch of other accounts with the same story - Daboll's lack of emotional maturity and tendancy to lash out in tight moments. 

Now that all this toothpaste is out of the tube, how does Daboll come back from this? Does he make some private apologies and vow to do better?  What he's doing is simply not sustainable going forward. 

I also wonder of the Giants know they have a problem and are leaking this stuff around, greasing the skids for Daboll's exit. 

With no fore knowledge of any of this I had suggested Daboll be fired and Wink promoted to HC weeks ago.

That would have preserved continuity and changed the dynamic.  Its still possible to do it.

Schoen and Mara are weaklings if they do nothing.  another season of futility

Quote from: Gman329 on January 15, 2024, 03:13:58 PMWow! This reads like a true account, coming from many leaks inside the building - and not just Wink. There is a Daboll quote, horrible if true, that is too specific to be made up. It's also in line with a bunch of other accounts with the same story - Daboll's lack of emotional maturity and tendancy to lash out in tight moments. 

Now that all this toothpaste is out of the tube, how does Daboll come back from this? Does he make some private apologies and vow to do better?  What he's doing is simply not sustainable going forward. 

I also wonder of the Giants know they have a problem and are leaking this stuff around, greasing the skids for Daboll's exit. 

When seeking a true accounting when it comes to feuds, there is almost always fault from both sides (not equal fault, but usually both sides contributed).  So when you get an article like this which is 100% negative of Daboll and 0% critical of Wink, you have to think PL's sources were in Wink's camp, so to speak.

These are not the headlines Daboll or the Giants need


https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1746996656191463876?s=20

Could this blow up and cause Daboll to be fired in a few weeks?

If the owners decide this is unwanted press and push Schoen to fire his guy it is not a bad year to cut and run IMO as there are more veteran recent/past HC guys on the market than are likely to get hired.

Two years of eg Pete Carroll to stabilise the organisation, reset the culture and transform perception of the working environment at the stroke of a pen might suddenly seem quite appealing to Messrs Mara and Tisch. Bill would not have quite the same effect 

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 15, 2024, 03:39:04 PMWhen seeking a true accounting when it comes to feuds, there is almost always fault from both sides (not equal fault, but usually both sides contributed).  So when you get an article like this which is 100% negative of Daboll and 0% critical of Wink, you have to think PL's sources were in Wink's camp, so to speak.

But at this point, anything Wink did is irrelivant.  I don't care what he did. He's gone.  We're talking strictly about Daboll now and if these things are true - and it's been written in too many places for me to believe otherwise and now this article contains that quote about the D losing the Washington game (reported by more than one person in the building) - this is a huge problem....and it doesn't sound like something Daboll can just turn off. It sounds to me like a fatal flaw in a Head Coach. 

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 15, 2024, 03:52:52 PMCould this blow up and cause Daboll to be fired in a few weeks?

Absolutely.  By the end of this week, in fact.

The brass is probably well aware unless they are willfully blind. It sounds too detailed to be dismissed.

Okay..let's say the press runs with this all playoffs..fire him? Do the Giants ever act so decisively?

Then..whose your guy? They just hired an OL coach.  

  Daboll

This article almost posts the entire article (in a long string of quotes)

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/lists/new-york-giants-brian-daboll-has-no-composure-assistants-warned-to-stay-away/?taid=65a58ff1373ad700010d9eba&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 15, 2024, 03:52:52 PMCould this blow up and cause Daboll to be fired in a few weeks?

Doubtful but possible with 6-11 record
Mara is a pantywaist though

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 15, 2024, 03:52:52 PMCould this blow up and cause Daboll to be fired in a few weeks?

Unless more reporters get behind this, I don't think so.  I was looking at the responses to the Dov Kleiman report on Twitter.  It was 100% pro-Giants and anti-Pat Leonard.

I was on the record preferring Flores to Daboll. And I'm still on that record.

"These are the times that try mens souls" Thomas Paine

I just want to talk football not Baldy's character flaws