PFF QB Rankings

[Painter]

In an effort to inform- best being more for each to assess- and for any reason for those who may care, here is where PFF ranks the League's 32 QB starters at the moment. Having nothing to do with Daniel Jones's middle of the pack status, I might find the placement of some of those before and after a bit curious as if it actually mattered.


1. PATRICK MAHOMES, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Mahomes is the standard by which all NFL quarterbacks are now measured. With Manning and Brady now names of the past, Mahomes is the new benchmark pushing the boundaries of what we have seen previously. Since coming into the league, he has 191 big-time throws including the postseason, the most in the NFL. He has also passed for 8.1 yards per attempt, a figure only quarterbacks playing for Kyle Shanahan have surpassed over the same span.

2. JOSH ALLEN, BUFFALO BILLS
If Mahomes is the obvious starting point, the next two spots are a toss-up between Buffalo's Josh Allen and Cincinnati's Joe Burrow. Each player is capable of elite play and outstanding levels, but the tiebreaker is Allen's rushing ability. It may not be a deal-breaker in every game, but there will be gotta-have-it situations where Allen is virtually unstoppable because of how many different ways he can beat a defense. Burrow can't bring that to the table.

3. JOE BURROW, CINCINNATI BENGALS
Burrow has led the league in PFF passing grade (by fractions) in each of the past two regular seasons. He has shown that, while everybody might be chasing special athletes at the position, just putting the ball in the right place at the right time is still capable of transformative play at the position. He has a career 77.1% adjusted completion rate, and his turnover-worthy play rate has gone down in each of his NFL seasons.

4. JUSTIN HERBERT, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
This is a big year for Herbert to justify the hype that has surrounded him since his phenomenal rookie season. We have seen glimpses of what he is capable of, but he passed for just 6.8 yards per attempt last season and finished eighth in PFF passing grade. Kellen Moore's arrival as the Chargers' offensive coordinator could be the key that fully unlocks Herbert, and if he is, this is where Herbert belongs.

5. AARON RODGERS, NEW YORK JETS
We are only a year removed from Rodgers coming off back-to-back MVP seasons, but at 39 years old any downturn in performance inevitably raises questions about whether this is the beginning of the end. The New York Jets should have a better supporting cast than Rodgers had last year in Green Bay, and he will know the offense, so I expect it to be a bounce-back season for the veteran.

6. LAMAR JACKSON, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Jackson is a former league MVP. He's also coming off consecutive injury-marred seasons and is changing offensive systems for the first time in his NFL career. Greg Roman built a bespoke offense around Jackson, but now Jackson has to adapt his game to a more conventional offense under Todd Monken. How Jackson fares this season will go a long way toward cementing his position in rankings like these, one way or another.

7. JALEN HURTS, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Hurts was phenomenal in 2022, but the hardest part of that kind of play in the NFL is sustaining it. Lamar Jackson one spot above him is a great example of that. Hurts has taken big steps forward every season of his career, and if he has another one in the tank, then he is ranked too low at No. 7. Hurts averaged 8.0 yards per attempt last season and added almost 800 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns on the ground.

8. TREVOR LAWRENCE, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Lawrence arrived last season. It took him half the year to get the Urban Meyer residue off, but from Week 9 onward, only Burrow and Mahomes earned a higher PFF grade. Billed as a truly generational talent when he was drafted, Lawrence showed that ability in 2022, and the Jaguars have continued to surround him with talent this offseason.

9. KIRK COUSINS, MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Cousins is probably at the top of the second tier of quarterbacks — those who you can win with but are unlikely to transform a team into a contender simply by their presence. Cousins has earned a PFF passing grade of at least 77.7 every season in Minnesota. He is an exceptionally accurate passer with plenty of big plays in his arsenal who maybe lacks that transcendent, intangible talent that every team chases at the position.

10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS
Prescott has shown himself to be one of the most sensitive quarterbacks in the league to changes in his supporting cast. His overall PFF grade has ranged from 71.8 to 85.2 over his career, and those changes tend to go hand in hand with the level of receiving help and blocking in front of him. Prescott's turnover-worthy play rate has been above 3.0% in each of the past four seasons, but when at his best he can lead one of the top offenses in the game.

11. TUA TAGOVAILOA, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Can Tua back up what we saw in 2022, or was his play beginning to be found out anyway when concussions became the overriding factor in his season? That's the big question for him and Miami heading into 2023. Tua led the league with a massive 8.9 yards per attempt last season and also had one of the highest average depths of target, having been in the middle of the pack before that. He has elite potential within Mike McDaniel's offense but now needs to repeat it.

12. MATTHEW STAFFORD, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Is Stafford physically able to be the player he once was? Last season was a nightmare for the Rams from start to finish, and Stafford wasn't far different on an individual level. He went from throwing 50 touchdowns including the playoffs the season before to just 10 across nine games before being shut down for the year. The Rams and Stafford are likely on the far side of their Super Bowl window, but how much he has left in the tank is a big unknown.

13. DESHAUN WATSON, CLEVELAND BROWNS
Maybe the hardest player to rank on the list, Watson has one of the widest ranges of outcomes in the NFL. He finished 2022 with just a 55.3 overall PFF grade after returning from suspension and didn't noticeably improve as one does if they are just shaking off the rust. In his last full season with Houston (2020), he earned a 92.5 PFF grade and was one of the best quarterbacks in the game. I have no earthly idea how good Watson will be in 2023, and neither does anybody else.

14. DEREK CARR, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Last year's 66.6 PFF grade was the lowest of Carr's career outside of his rookie season. In what was supposed to be a solid season, Carr's big plays declined and he was notably less accurate overall. His adjusted completion rate dropped by more than 6 percentage points from the year before to his lowest level since he was a rookie. That likely represents the floor for Carr's play, and he has typically been a borderline top-10 player over his career.

15. GENO SMITH, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Another difficult quarterback to rank, Smith improbably ranked as a top-five quarterback for much of last season before the wheels fell off a little late in the year. Was that the inevitable regression back to the mean, or was it a product of his pass protection suffering a similar late-season collapse? Smith had flashed before in his NFL career, but we hadn't seen the heights he hit last season. He earned three single-game PFF grades north of 90.0 and posted a 5.4% big-time throw rate.

16. JARED GOFF, DETROIT LIONS
Goff is in an outstanding offense with one of the best coordinators in football running the show. Depending on the numbers you look at, his stats will make him look like one of the best passers in football, but it's clear to anybody with a critical eye that that doesn't quite match reality. Goff ranked 19th last season in PFF passing grade and 30th in big-time throw rate. He is a solid quarterback for the offense he's in but is not as good as some of the results would suggest.

17. DANIEL JONES, NEW YORK GIANTS
In his first year with Brian Daboll as his coach, Jones saw an uptick in results, but his performance didn't necessarily match that improvement, albeit with very little help around him in terms of a supporting cast. Jones has now posted a big-time throw rate under 2.0% for two consecutive seasons, the lowest mark in the league. His rushing threat, however, is a huge boost to that offense, and he should have more success in 2023 with better players to target.

18. JUSTIN FIELDS, CHICAGO BEARS
Fields won himself a starting job last season with almost no help around him. New general manager Ryan Poles stripped the roster of talent around him, and Fields was still able to emerge as one of the most dynamic players in the league. His passing is still very much a work in progress, but last season his primary targets were tight end Cole Kmet and speedster Darnell Mooney. This is a huge year for Fields to show what he can do with more help.


19. RYAN TANNEHILL, TENNESSEE TITANS
Tannehill is very much in the decline of his career at this point, but he is being made to look worse by the collapse of talent around him in Tennessee. The Titans ended last season with the league's worst offensive line, and they may be entering this one with the league's worst receiving corps. Tannehill has little chance to prove he is still capable of his best play and is coming off a 75.9% adjusted completion rate and a 2.5% turnover-worthy play rate in 2022.

20. RUSSELL WILSON, DENVER BRONCOS
Wilson ranked 26th in PFF passing grade last season and 29th in overall grade. It's difficult to overstate how bad his first year in Denver was and how much uncertainty that paints his future in. Sean Payton has been brought in to make the best of a disastrous situation, but exactly where Wilson can land on the spectrum between last season and his best play in Seattle is pure guesswork. Given his visible decline in athleticism, it seems likely that his baseline is closer to last year than his peak, but he is a player with a wide range of outcomes.

21. MAC JONES, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Bringing in real coaching on offense has the potential to be huge for Jones. As underwhelming as last season was, it's important to remember that Jones earned an 80.0 overall PFF grade as a rookie, finishing just outside the top 10 of eligible quarterbacks that year. He doesn't have the dynamic athleticism of Justin Fields or the arm of Trevor Lawrence, but he has already shown he can be a very high-level distributor of the football and a better player than many give him credit for.

22. KENNY PICKETT, PITTSBURGH STEELERS
The best quarterback in what was deemed an awful quarterback class, Pickett performed admirably in his rookie season even though the statistics weren't necessarily pretty. His PFF passing grade was good enough to rank 16th in the league, but he finished the season with more interceptions (nine) than touchdowns (seven). Pittsburgh's scheme was toothless and predictable in 2022, and that might be the biggest obstacle standing between Pickett and real improvement in these rankings.

23. BROCK PURDY, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Purdy passed for 8.3 yards per attempt last season in his run as the starter — more than Patrick Mahomes and every quarterback in the league other than Tua Tagovailoa — but he attempted just 233 passes in an offense we know to be a virtual cheat code for production. It would be wrong to dismiss his success altogether — he was better than players like Nick Mullens who also had success in that offense — but it would also be crazy to overreact to such a small sample size, even outside of the risk associated with the UCL surgery Purdy had on his elbow.

24. JIMMY GAROPPOLO, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
For his injury history alone, Garoppolo is likely capped at this kind of level in the rankings. He was outperformed by Purdy last season in the same offense and now goes to a new offensive system, albeit one he is familiar with from his stint in New England. The Raiders have a good collection of receivers to throw to, but Garoppolo has a 3.6% career turnover-worthy play rate, significantly higher than his big-time-throw rate (2.9%). Even if he stays healthy all season, he is likely a below-average starter.

25. BRYCE YOUNG, CAROLINA PANTHERS
Young was the best quarterback in this draft by a considerable margin, and the only thing that made the discussion close was his lack of size — something that becomes obvious any time he is captured on film with anything near him to show true scale. Young has elite accuracy, anticipation and decision-making (back-to-back seasons with a 2.0% turnover-worthy play rate), but success at his size in the modern NFL is without precedent.

26. JORDAN LOVE, GREEN BAY PACKERS
Love passed for 9.3 yards per attempt last season and earned a 78.7 PFF grade. On the other hand, he attempted 21 passes and was disastrous the last time he was on the field before that. We have very little idea what Love can become, with the biggest piece of evidence being that the Packers decided it was time to move on from Aaron Rodgers and turn the keys over to his successor. Countering that was the contract they got Love to agree to, which could only have started with the assumption that they were not going to pick up his fifth-year option.

27. SAM HOWELL, WASHINGTON COMMANDERS
Another almost total gamble, Howell was given one game late last season to audition for the starting job and performed well in it. He completed 11 of 19 passes for 168 yards and a touchdown while rushing for 35 yards and another score. Howell was seen as a legitimate prospect before sliding all the way to the fifth round of the 2022 draft, but expecting anything above this would be wildly optimistic.

28. BAKER MAYFIELD, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
It's difficult to argue that Mayfield's 2022 season was easily predictable, but it's equally difficult to maintain any kind of lofty expectations for him going forward after witnessing it. His 50.6 PFF grade on the year was 13 grading points lower than his previous career-worst mark (which involved a torn shoulder), and it speaks volumes that the Rams were happy to let him walk after he led the team to a remarkable win just after stepping off the plane after they traded for him. Mayfield has very good play on his NFL resume, but it's getting harder and harder to see it in the rearview mirror.

29. COLT MCCOY, ARIZONA CARDINALS
With Kyler Murray not likely to be ready until late in the season, if at all, McCoy will helm the Cardinals' offense for most of the season. It would be easy to assume that's the worst quarterback situation in the league, but the chances are that one of the better backups in the game performs better than some of the young starters. McCoy has handled more than 100 dropbacks in each of the past two seasons, completing 71% of his passes at 6.6 yards per attempt over that time.

30. C.J. STROUD, HOUSTON TEXANS
There were a lot of Stroud fans throughout the pre-draft process, but I was always a little lower on him than most. He has NFL stature and elite accuracy, but outside of the Georgia game in the college football playoffs, he had some real issues under pressure or after the play had broken down. His PFF grade under pressure last season placed him in the 18th percentile, and that only improves to the 34th percentile if you look at a two-year sample size.

31. DESMOND RIDDER, ATLANTA FALCONS
There was little we saw from Ridder last season to suggest he will approach even average play at the position. Marcus Mariota played his way to the bench with his performances, and Ridder was simply the young quarterback in line for reps. He posted a 68.5% adjusted completion rate and had two turnover-worthy plays to three big-time throws. He also recorded just 136 dropbacks, so it would be a stretch to draw any concrete conclusions.

32. ANTHONY RICHARDSON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Richardson wasn't even a particularly good college quarterback last season in the SEC. His overall PFF grade came in at 80.3, which ranked 38th in the nation and was being propped up by his rushing ability — something that will need to continue in the NFL. The good news for him is that he landed with a head coach who just executed this development arc with Jalen Hurts. Richardson will need to rely on the limitless athleticism that saw him average 7.4 yards per carry last season while he develops as a passer.

Cheers!

[True Blue]

I'd move Watson down a few spots until he bounces back, otherwise hard to argue with most of this list

[uconnjack8]

First I thing I noticed was the top 6 are all in the AFC.

[DaveBrown74]

Does anyone know what PFF's exact definition of a "big time throw" is ? They note that Jones is dead last in the league in big time throw rate two years running now. I assume it's a completed pass of some distance? Not sure if it's air yards or total yards though. Anyone know? Just curious.

[Trench]

Does anyone know what PFF's exact definition of a "big time throw" is ? They note that Jones is dead last in the league in big time throw rate two years running now. I assume it's a completed pass of some distance? Not sure if it's air yards or total yards though. Anyone know? Just curious.

Nobody knows much of anything about what or why or how PFF decides things which is why it's difficult to take them seriously. It's a grift

[DaveBrown74]

Nobody knows much of anything about what or why or how PFF decides things which is why it's difficult to take them seriously. It's a grift

This is what I was able to find on their site. Not exactly the most precise explanation:


"On the plus-side, "big-time throws" (BTT) earn the highest level of grade and can be "best described as a pass with excellent ball location and timing, generally thrown further down the field and/or into a tighter window," to quote Palazzolo and Monson. Just 4.4 percent of attempts have earned this distinction since 2014 (same rate as touchdowns, interestingly) and resulted in a passer rating of 158.1. However, these great throws result in a touchdown only 28.6 percent of the time, further emphasizing the reason for using them."


Here is that article:

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-re-evaluating-the-nfl-passer-rating-using-big-time-turnover-worthy-throws

[BluesCruz]

Putting Jones at 17 is fair based upon performance

He does have a huge upside though if the supporting cast is truly upgraded

This ratifies why we had to lock him into a contract and not put the tag on him.   His arrow is pointed up and there are a ton of other teams who would start him if they had the chance

[T200]

I'm with Painter regarding these rankings.

They determine nothing when it comes to wins and losses.

[MightyGiants]

If you read the commentary, it's not hard to see that even with PFF the QB's performance and grades are heavily influenced by his three pillars of support-  coaching/scheme, protection, and receiving targets

[True Blue]

If you read the commentary, it's not hard to see that even with PFF the QB's performance and grades are heavily influenced by his three pillars of support-  coaching/scheme, protection, and receiving targets

Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson are ranked 5 and 6 respectively. Rodgers had a lackluster cast around him this year, and Jackson had very little aside from Andrews (who had a down year), but they both seemed to be able to grade/rank much higher.

Herbert was 4th despite not having his top guys for half the season or more. His HC is also potentially on the hot seat

Trevor Lawrence did not have a true #1 WR and he was able to crack the top 10, his OL also wasn't anything special

That 4 of the top 10

[MightyGiants]

Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson are ranked 5 and 6 respectively. Rodgers had a lackluster cast around him this year, and Jackson had very little aside from Andrews (who had a down year), but they both seemed to be able to grade/rank much higher.

Herbert was 4th despite not having his top guys for half the season or more. His HC is also potentially on the hot seat

Trevor Lawrence did not have a true #1 WR and he was able to crack the top 10, his OL also wasn't anything special

That 4 of the top 10

Lamar Jackson

2nd best pass protection
26th receiving

Aaron Rodgers

3rd best pass protection
23rd receiving

Herbert

17th pass protection
12th receiving

Lawerence

10th pass protection
22nd receiving


for reference

Jones

24th blocking
27th receiving

[Rambo89]

I think this is a fair ranking for Jones considering the Giants had a bottom third passing offense in 2022 a season which after 4 seasons is his best of his career.  If you would have just based the ranking on the Giants passing offense production he would have been in the bottom third but factoring in his running game and some gaps in talent on offense it gives him a pass for that.

As for the rest of the rankings I would move Burrow up to 2 dropping Allen to 3 and also think Rodgers can be dropped a few spots based upon his aging decline.

[True Blue]

Lamar Jackson

2nd best pass protection
26th receiving

Aaron Rodgers

3rd best pass protection
23rd receiving

Herbert

17th pass protection
12th receiving

Lawerence

10th pass protection
22nd receiving


for reference

Jones

24th blocking
27th receiving

Lamar Jackson 6th

Aaron Rodgers 5th

Justin Herbert 4th

Trevor Lawrence 8th

Daniel Jones 17th


But in DJs credit, PFF also seems to agree with me in thinking DJ will take leaps this year, "he should have more success in 2023 with better players to target", although the QBs mentioned did not enjoy a receiver group in the top 10, most were actually in the same range as Jones.

Maybe with JMS, year 2 Neal and some continuity, maybe the OL will get Jones to where we all know he can be. It does not appear these other guys are struggling with their lack of weapons though

[MightyGiants]

Lamar Jackson 6th

Aaron Rodgers 5th

Justin Herbert 4th

Trevor Lawrence 8th

Daniel Jones 17th


But in DJs credit, PFF also seems to agree with me in thinking DJ will take leaps this year, "he should have more success in 2023 with better players to target", although the QBs mentioned did not enjoy a receiver group in the top 10, most were actually in the same range as Jones.

Maybe with JMS, year 2 Neal and some continuity, maybe the OL will get Jones to where we all know he can be. It does not appear these other guys are struggling with their lack of weapons though

No matter how you slice and dice it, all the QBs you mentioned and superior on-field support compared to Daniel Jones.

[kingm56]

No matter how you slice and dice it, all the QBs you mentioned and superior on-field support compared to Daniel Jones.

Unless I'm reading this incorrectly, it's a projection for 2023; thus, with DJs improved coaching, oline, and pass catchers, he's still projected to be a middle of the pack. Given the contact he just signed, relative to Hurts and Jackson, that's how the Giants appear to see him too (+/- a few slots).  He's a good starter with potential to be a plus starter; he's not a prolific passer who will challenge for AP consideration.

Also, if we're going to use PFF to justify how poor DJs supporting cast was, than we should accept their QB rankings.