Michael Lombardi: A great quarterback is hard to find

[MightyGiants]

If we didn't draft Jones would we have had Haskins?

Likely not

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/18/dwayne-haskins-ohio-state-pro-day-new-york-giants-interest

[Rambo89]

still remember Hebert did not want to come to Giants. Period.

Huh?  I don't remember seeing that or reading that anywhere.

I had previously identified a lack of intellectual consistency as the reason Mike Lombardi failed as a GM.  His last podcast showed that shortcoming quite vividly.  Immediately after using DJ's bad game as proof that Jones is a bad quarterback and the Giants were foolish to have re-signed him, he goes on to make a huge number of excuses as to why Joe Burrow was performing worse than Daniel Jones.  Apparently a lack of protection is a legit reason for a QB's bad performance when talking about Burrow, but not for Jones (who has an even worse offensive line)

Here's the difference Joe Burrow's last two seasons he threw for around 4,500 yards and 35 TD's.  When has Daniel Jones ever come close to putting up a season like that?

If we didn't draft Jones would we have had Haskins?

No idea if another team in front of the Giants that year would have taken Jones.  The teams in front of them (excluding Arizona who took Murray) all were pretty set at QB so it would have been another team after them trading up to take Jones.  Think it's pretty clear the Mara and Gettleman were locked in on taking Jones.

[MightyGiants]

Here's the difference Joe Burrow's last two seasons he threw for around 4,500 yards and 35 TD's.  When has Daniel Jones ever come close to putting up a season like that?

The drop-off was more drastic for Burrow, but factually speaking there was a major dropoff in Jones' performance from last season.   To be willing to entertain excuses for one and not the other simply is lacking in intellectual consistency

[Jclayton92]

One is an injured elite Qb who has won a title in college and been to the super bowl and the other is a Qb who has done nothing in 9 years of football... how is there a comparison to be found anywhere?

[Rambo89]

The drop-off was more drastic for Burrow, but factually speaking there was a major dropoff in Jones' performance from last season.   To be willing to entertain excuses for one and not the other simply is lacking in intellectual consistency

Sure in Burrow's case the drop off is from an Elite QB the prior two full seasons.  With Jones it's a case of a from off from an Average QB the prior season.