Leonard Williams to the Seahawks

[Bob In PA]

I need a lot more film on this entire QB class.

Ed: IMO, the 2023 draft certainly does not contain a Peyton Manning or John Elway (obvious #1 overall pick).

Lots of folks said last year at this time, "2022 isn't a good year for QBs but just wait til next year (2023)."

I hope they're right... but I just don't see it.

Bob

[GordonGekko80]

Gordon: I get it, but Taylor remaining in the hospital may have been the actual catalyst. Just a wild guess. Bob

In the sense that the season's gone or because they needed to sign another QB and get some Cap Space freed up (did they, actually, get some cap back with the trade)?

[Bob In PA]

In the sense that the season's gone or because they needed to sign another QB and get some Cap Space freed up (did they, actually, get some cap back with the trade)?

Gordon: Over my pay-grade, but it's my understanding that the answer is no. The picks are what they got. Bob

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1719307888286486726?s=20

[GordonGekko80]

https://x.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1719307888286486726?s=20

The bonus money was owed anyways. I don't really agree with this interpretation if I am being completely honest.

[MightyGiants]

The bonus money was owed anyways. I don't really agree with this interpretation if I am being completely honest.

I can see it from both sides.  I see your point in that it's essentially a sunk cost.  On the other hand, I can see the point that the team no longer has Leo's services but is paying essentially the same as if he was still here.

[Bob In PA]

I can see it from both sides.  I see your point in that it's essentially a sunk cost.  On the other hand, I can see the point that the team no longer has Leo's services but is paying essentially the same as if he was still here.

Rich: A counterpoint to your last sentence is... maybe the defense will play the same without him as with him. lol

[kingm56]

Rich: A counterpoint to your last sentence is... maybe the defense will play the same without him as with him. lol

The Giants are 2-6...does it really matter at this point? 

[andrew_nyGiants]

The Giants are 2-6...does it really matter at this point?

It does if the O gets healthy and we reel off 4 in a row.


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[Stringer Bell]

The bonus money was owed anyways. I don't really agree with this interpretation if I am being completely honest.

Agreed 100%. It doesn't make sense.

To Rich's point explaining the other side - "they're paying him for his services despite no longer having his services" - this is totally inconsequential. This year is over, and Leo was not going to be here beyond this year, regardless.

A cheap, 2nd round pick who will be here for at least the next 4 years is infinitely more available than continuing to trot out Leo for 9 more meaningless games.

[kingm56]

It does if the O gets healthy and we reel off 4 in a row.


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So we finish 7 and 9, which condemns us to more of the same? It's clear the direction the Giants are moving.

[uconnjack8]

IF this team manages to get its act together and finishes strong, my opinion of the trade will be even more positive than it already is.  That means the Giants get a 2nd round pick and the defense still played well in the 2nd half of the season. 

I don't see a way that anyone can convince me that getting a 2nd round pick for a guy that was not going to be on the team in 2024 isn't a positive. 

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1719095859147587824?s=20

[Bob In PA]

The Giants are 2-6...does it really matter at this point? 

king: Yes, just not to me and you, lol. A lot of players can get paid more for accomplishing certain stuff. Bob

[kingm56]

king: Yes, just not to me and you, lol. A lot of players can get paid more for accomplishing certain stuff. Bob

Thats a very fair point, Bob.