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QB pressure rate vs time to pressure

Started by MightyGiants, November 29, 2023, 05:51:58 PM

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BluesCruz

Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 30, 2023, 11:01:09 PMYes we see the difference in the protection, but the difference in the protection isn't enough to justify horrible play. The protection went from 32nd to 27th, which is better but only marginally.  Now look at what a franchise Qb should be able to do for an offense vs an undrafted free agent and the gap shouldn't be that small.

Tyrod had a guy on his couch the week before instead of Jones having ezeudu so that should be a good eye test to show that something is wrong with the starting Qb.

The problem is that this is who Jones has been even last year the staff just masked it well. He got away with 180 yard games that we had no business winning but did. Jones is horrible at progressions, and scanning the field, on top of having a horrible clock and a refusal to look beyond 6 yards down the field.

Jones was still going to be Jones no matter who was in at oline which is the problem. If Jones was 100% healthy right now I would take Devito and Taylor over him. At least I know the football will go beyond 10 yards with them and we would have at minimum a slightly average offense.

well put and honest assessment
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MightyGiants

Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 30, 2023, 05:24:56 PMI think the media/fan base is more to blame than he is. After all he didn't give him the 5th year option and once last season was over the media and a large majority wanted him back at all cost despite his pedestrian numbers. At the end of last season the fan base would have been furious if we signed Mayfield, or minshew over retaining Jones even though it was the right thing to do. So schoen did the best he could by resigning Jones bc there was nothing else out there, and then creating the escape latch likely knowing the end result.

Suggesting the fans influenced Schoen's decisions is a damning accusation.

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Jclayton92

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 01, 2023, 09:45:44 AMSuggesting the fans influenced Schoen's decisions is a damning accusation.

Remember this football truism-  The GM that thinks like a fan will quickly join the fans
How? Mara and a ton of the fan base were in full bloom love with Jones even after the disastrous Eagles playoff game and his pedestrian yardage and Td numbers last year. Then at the start of camp into the preseason the fan base and media again overhyped a below average Qb. Detriot rag dolled us in practices and it was seen as they were just practicing harder on their home field etc etc. Instead of holding Jones accountable the fans and media made excuses for him habitually and turned their noses up at people pointing out the obvious flaws in Jones.

Yes schoen likely made the best of a bad decision but I believe the fan base and media's coddling of Jones didn't help.

I mean there is still a portion of the fan base that Still think he's the guy because people made so many excuses for him for so long that they legitimately can't stop making them.