Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: GiantFan67 on January 14, 2012, 07:42:54 PM
This trade is mind boggling. I cannot understand what prompted Mariners to make it. It reminds me of the Kansas City/Yankee underground railroad of years gone by..

Perhaps because the kid won one game after the All-Star break?  I am going to play "wait-and-see" before passing judgement on this trade.  Whenever anything looks too good to be true ... it usually is.

Meanwhile, the Yanks continue to be loaded with "swing and miss" hitters who can only feast on bad pitching. Good pitching shuts down this Yanks lineup easily.

I don't see Lawson anywhere on the Giants' radar.  After being a rushbacker in a 3/4 his entire career, he would have to learn a new position in the Sam.  I think the Giants are done with conversion projects.

This is good stuff guys ..

I believe that Jones dropped in the Draft because he is a MLB with a WLB body.  He had a difficult time shedding blocks and was often easily washed out of plays.  So even though he was productive in college, that type of production may not translate into success at the NFL level because he is reputedly not strong at the point-of-attack. We will see ...

As to Jernigan - going to Troy certainly didn't stop Osi or DeMarcus Ware (as was stated earlier) and just because Moss was small and unsuccessful doesn't mean Jernigan is going to be unsuccessful (as was also stated earlier).  How did being small affect DeSean Jackson?

Being that this was such an awful LB class - what kind of "top tier" LB did you have in mind in the 3rd Round?

To me anyway, it has become quite clear that the Giants don't draft positions - they draft the highest rated player on their Board.  So I didn't see any top-tier LBs on the Board at that selection.  I am curious who you wanted.

I agree - Kareem is solidly entrenched at ORT.

However, I would be surprised if Prince doesn't beat out TT for the starting CB job.  If Smith can't make it back - I would also be surprised if Jernigan doesn't start in the slot (who else is there?).  If Cofield is sent packing - I would also be surprised if Austin doesn't get rotation time.

Then again too ... perhaps Grizz has an "in" with the Prince of Darkness?  Sometimes his posts are a bit devilish. 

Once again, we are faced with different scouting reports on players.  This is not uncommon. 

Anyway - while Byrnes feels JJ will not be a downfield threat and is not that adept at yards-after-catch (YAC), former Scout Russ Lande gave JJ the "best after the catch" tag among all WRs in this year's Draft.

Now I would be more inclined to lean towards a former scout than a beat football writer (who wouldn't?).  But regardless, we all know that you never really know what you have in a player until they take the field in an NFL game.  So time will tell ....

The rap on him is that he shies away from the "dirty" stuff.  But I never said he can't learn to pick up blitzes.  If you recall, Bradshaw was pretty bad his rookie year at that.  Once TC sat him down, he got better.  So there is certainly hope.

One of the "negatives" with Scott is that he is a track guy who plays football.  The key is to whether he can become a football player who runs like a track guy.  The last guy who shied away from contact was Sinorice Moss and we know what that attribute did to his career. 

Bingo Uni!  That is why guys who run 4.2 40x times drop to the 7th Round.  He is apparently a track guy and shies away from the dirty stuff such as picking up blitzes. 

I think the reason the Giants "passed on some pretty good offensive line talent" has more to do with the Giants taking the highest rated player on their Board rather than being happy with what they currently have.

I don't know - he may be able to contribute immediately.  He handled Redskin Ryan Kerrigan pretty easily not allowing one sack or pressure the entire game.  Injuries have held him back the past few years.  Considering he didn't even start to play football until late in high school, his best years are ahead of him.

I find it interesting that many of you compare Jernigan to Moss only because they are both "small".  That's like saying Ramses Barden is just like Plax because they are both tall.  I think we need to measure football players on how they play the game ... not on their size. 

As to the schools they went to as another barometer - Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State.  That year, there were plenty of Big Ten and SEC players that bombed in the NFL.  It's not the school you go to, once again, it's the player you are regardless of competition.

I saw Jernigan play several times this year and last.  He was easily the best offensive player on the field.  The Draft is a crapshoot - yes indeed.  But I would be very surprised if Jernigan doesn't start in the slot this year and becomes one of the Giants' best offensive players.

Teams very rarely stash Draft picks on the Practice Squad.  Therefore it is highly unlikely they would put Jones there.  This team is so LB-starved that it is pretty much a no-brainer that Jones makes the team this year.

I believe they are looking at him for ORT and then as a swing tackle to take over once Kareem retires or gets injured.  Beatty is being earmarked for OLT unless he bombs out in Training Camp.

I think we have to keep in mind that this is a 6th Round Draft pick.  If he can upgrade STs and provide some LB depth, then what is there not to like?  As has been pointed out - the Special Teams were putrid last year.  All of the latter Round Draft picks can provide some help to that unit.  Now if we can find a coach!