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Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 03:07:12 PMSimilar with Bellinger.

I had forgotten about his gun show.   

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:02:51 PMI got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked.  Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate

Similar with Bellinger.

Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on Today at 12:42:48 PMFar be it for me to defend the Giants, as the last decade plus proves that they have been well behind average as a franchise, but this guy makes zero sense.  Take JJ just because positional value dictates a QB?  Take an OT and move him to ROT just like we did a few years ago?  And what, make trades to shake things up and be more inspiring?  This guy sounds like an idiot.

Sure, I could have made a good case to trade down in the first and get more picks and draft into the WR strength in the draft, but I give the Giants credit for not trading up, or not taking a QB at 6 they did not have convictions on.  They will be judged harshly if they missed on QB, but they didn't do the "easy" thing and pick a QB and try to do something with a player that they didn't believe in.

Not to mention the fact that it takes 2 to tango and we have no way of knowing if there even was the opportunity to trade down.  Just like it is apparent that there really was no way to trade up, since absent a ridiculous offer the Pats weren't trading.

Here is a good article on Jake Kubas


https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-york-giants/jake-kubas-lineman-undrafted-free-agent/

Quote from: GloryDays on Today at 02:02:11 PMTommy seems to be quite under-rated because of his pre-nfl portfolio. I watched a couple of his games and I really think the kid has some special ability. He has a pretty good arm. He is accurate and throws some catchable balls. His pocket presence is excellent. He can buy time and hit the target running. If no one is open he tries to run or secures the ball for minimal loss. In the Washington game, behind that atrocious line, he was sacked 9 times, but was still able to throw some nice completions and win the game.
On the Jets game, I think, they tied his hands and he still almost won that game! He could have been 4-1, in 5 games with a lousy O line and average targets.

I agree. Some people just can't get past his lack of pre-NFL credentials but the eye test doesn't lie. I don't believe a Gardner Minshew type career is out of the question for him if he can land in the right situation. 

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 01:10:33 PMIf Tommy is the long term answer, we are asking the wrong question.

Remember there was no tape on Cutlets and now there is some and every team that is scheduled to play us will be breaking it down. The sophomore slump is real. He's a UDFA. If anything, he's already far exceeded expectations. Enjoy the ride but no, he is not the QB of the future. He will soon be 26 years old. If we can get a young cheap QB2 next year will. I can see Lock being the starter in 2025, until our rookie QB is ready to start. Ewers or Beck or whomever it will be. Cutlets will be remembered for the Italian memes; he gave us some fun games in a season that has been abysmal. After 2024 the Giants will turn the page

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 11:47:47 AMIf you listen to nothing more than the last ten minutes or so, it's worth it. Toomer goes into a lot of detail about becoming a pro, what it takes physically and mentally...about not fearing about competition, but actually wanting it, etc. Amani tells it like it is (it's simply business) from a player's perspective and his unique point of view on DJ as well as running backs. He explains to players that you have to get better every year or you're gone, and don't fear being replaced, but embrace it and use it to push yourself further

A good example is Kayvon who spent the offseason getting bigger and stronger, as shown here in Spring workout...exactly as Toomer explains in his dialogue. He looks jacked and will look great across his new bookend Burns. They will push each other

I got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked.  Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate

Tommy seems to be quite under-rated because of his pre-nfl portfolio. I watched a couple of his games and I really think the kid has some special ability. He has a pretty good arm. He is accurate and throws some catchable balls. His pocket presence is excellent. He can buy time and hit the target running. If no one is open he tries to run or secures the ball for minimal loss. In the Washington game, behind that atrocious line, he was sacked 9 times, but was still able to throw some nice completions and win the game.
On the Jets game, I think, they tied his hands and he still almost won that game! He could have been 4-1, in 5 games with a lousy O line and average targets.

Nabers was 6 not Top 5, Harrison was Top 5.

Had the Giants had a Top 5 pick I think we all can agree there is no guarantee Nabers would not have been the pick.
Furthermore, Jamar Chase and waddle just went 5 and 6 2 seasons ago. Both teams got great value

The Giants did trade, the 39th pick in the 2nd for Burns

RE: Safety in the 2nd round- I do not know But the G-men got the #1 rated safety in the draft and a Top 35 player in the draft with the 47 pick at a huge need after the departure of Mckinney

Much of this person's claims are wrong and the one that is not blatantly incorrect is debatable

An analytics professional  should be well aware value is also analyzed by the number at the position, as well as, position by round . Probabilities drastically change based on the which rated prospect at a position is selected.

Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 01:44:24 PMLOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero

What else is he supposed to say? This draft happened the way it had to happen. Prior to the draft we had nothing on offense that scared defensive coaches around the league. We add players to our roster to build our team for the future. Nabers will command attention and that will hopefully equal to other players getting open. We addressed the O-line in FA and UDFA and got a new O-line coach. These issues of bringing in talent and trying to fix the O-line was priority. Jones and Cutlets are already paid for 2024 season. Joe knows this. Unless something drastically changes this upcoming year.....then good bye Jones and Culets. They are just bodies filling a position as of now