Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:54:08 PMJones dropped back 28 times in that game.  Of those 28 dropbacks, he was sacked 7 times, hit 6 times, and hurried 24 times.   Do you think that it's possible (even if remotely) that might have impacted DJ's game?  Plus it was pouring rain

And he had fast feet. Eyes wide open and scared look, locked on every receiver and made horrible decisions. You can attempt to defend it that's fine by me, but he looked overmatched and nervous.

Jones was horrible that game let's not forget that. He melted

The biggest problem in that Dallas Game was Jones played scared and had a deer in headlights look. One thing he must improve upon is success on national tv games. He melts in those spots

Bottom line is a receiver cannot do anything unless he gets the ball thrown his way. We saw Bellinger can be productive in year one. I suspect he will get more looks this year and people will see he can be a legit threat.

I have him as my breakout player this year.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:20:41 AMJones had 160 passing attempts, while Taylor and DeVito had 358 attempts (combined).  Why are you blaming Daniel Jones for Bellinger's short comings?

I will clarify as u are correct - Jones AND the other QBs. Certainly don't wanna upset the jones or bust club

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:28:42 AMYeah, he took fewer targets in camp, but he didn't step up when Waller got hurt and he had a chance to shine

The Giants did not target him consistently whatsoever. That's not on him. That's on Jones or the game plan or both.

Quote from: AYM on May 11, 2024, 05:18:13 PMThe crazy thing is, the very first drive, the team looked crisp. And then the wheels came off.

This is a very good point and one which wasn't dissected enough. Was it the result of coaching adjustments?...it's a fascinating thing to analyze

Quote from: Painter on May 10, 2024, 10:24:53 AMA) If the shoe fits... B) It had nothing to with you no matter how you may choose to read it. C) It still applies to those for whom it was and is directed who quite obviously aren't bothered in the least by it.

Is that clear enough?

Cheers!

Yeah whatever.
Cheers

I wonder what the difference is in football administration and football operations

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 09, 2024, 10:47:56 PMI personally think maybe this topic should be pinned and held up for the entire year so that everyone can see that CBS sports had Daniel Jones ranked as the 32nd worst QB in the entire NFL.

And

Then after the 2024 season is completed everyone will see where Daniel Jones truly ranked, and if CBS sports should ever be taken seriously again, or if they were truly right on the money?

Only time will tell.

Excellent idea.

To put Jones dead last reeks of click bait and is extremely disrespectful. I hope the guy posts the article above his locker and goes out and makes a big turnaround. If only he would practice looking off the safety. That would be a start. One can hope

Quote from: Painter on May 09, 2024, 01:07:51 PMIf you think I was discourteous to you, you have no idea what that means. As for ill-will, call it what you like, but you also seem confused as to whom, what and why I have been critical. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps, that's just as well.

Cheers!

I was pointing to when you threw out the label, gratuitous and mean spirited beneath what is a Giants fan

Quote from: Painter on May 09, 2024, 09:50:53 AMEither you're missing the point, or prefer less candor when it comes to taking exception to those who are so singly invested in the relentless bashing of Daniel Jones and ridiculing of the team for his presence.

By no means has been it a one-off or a "fool me once" failure-rooting exercise to which I am taking exception. If you don't like it, you can tsk, tsk about it all you like without having to whine to teacher. What do expect them to do, spank the armadillo? 

Cheers!

Your post makes no sense to me whatsoever. I have no ill will towards whatever you believe or root for. I simply ask you for the same courtesy.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 08, 2024, 07:26:52 PMBias is fine.  Except when it causes you to ignore facts, like the difference between a bad group of receivers and the 7th ranked group of receivers. 

Then you do you, but it doesn't help when some here disrespect dissenting though and it happens frequently. I called it out earlier and nobody even responded. Speaks volumes. Facts have been stated on both sides but many just refuse to accept it. To each his own. Time will tell.

Quote from: Painter on May 08, 2024, 01:43:12 PMSorry, while I understand why you might choose to suggest it, I don't agree. We are not all just fans when there are those among us who, rather than root for the team's success, feel compelled to make every relentless effort to demean someone like Daniel Jones despite being fully aware, as are we all, of the uncertainty regarding his future and with it both the challenge and consequences involved for all concerned. For such people here, it is both meanspirited and gratuitous and hardly reflects that of a true Giants fan.

Cheers!

My point being - I don't agree with you either. And that is ok.

However you should be a little nicer and not state as fact anyone not holding the same opinion of you doesn't "reflect that of a true Giants fan"....that is simply not true and is beneath what this board is all about. I would hope the moderators and the owner would agree.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 08, 2024, 11:57:47 AMThis discussion wouldn't be necessary if every post of yours about DJ didn't reflect your extreme bias.  Like ignoring the difference in sacks rates.  Blaming the sacks on DJ. Ignoring the difference between the 7th ranked WR group and bottom 5 receiver group. 

This board has extreme bias going both ways for and against Jones. It is far from a one way ticket.

And that is ok. We are all just fans.