Ice cube has offered to pay her 5 million to play 10 games. The average Big3 player gets 100k to play 10.
Bill
Quote from: Bill Brown on March 27, 2024, 06:56:49 PMIce cube has offered to pay her 5 million to play 10 games. The average Big3 player gets 100k to play 10.
Bill
If there's ever been a player who deserves it....
To play 10 games where?
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 28, 2024, 06:21:39 PMTo play 10 games where?
Yeah I didn't understand either. Is this to play 10 games against him? Who are the 10 games again?
Sorry - I missed this story. I don't know anything about this. OP, can you please give some more detail?
The schedule for a season in The Big3 league is 10 games. They play on Saturdays. Each week the games are played in a different city. A couple of years ago they paid the players 10k a game so a player could earn 100k for the season.
Ice Cube offered Caitlin Clark 5 million to play a 10 game season.
Bill
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 28, 2024, 06:35:21 PMYeah I didn't understand either. Is this to play 10 games against him? Who are the 10 games again?
Sorry - I missed this story. I don't know anything about this. OP, can you please give some more detail?
He has a 3 on 3 league so the games would be in that framework. His league doesn't conflict with the WNBA so she can have her cake and at it too.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 28, 2024, 06:35:21 PMYeah I didn't understand either. Is this to play 10 games against him? Who are the 10 games again?
Sorry - I missed this story. I don't know anything about this. OP, can you please give some more detail?
They play on CBS during the summer I believe but 3 v 3 league of retired NBA guys or guys from the G league that fell out.
She is focusing on her brand image, which is into the millions. Don't think she'll do it. She's a pioneer already and doesn't need the cash spectacle.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 29, 2024, 09:27:46 AMShe is focusing on her brand image, which is into the millions. Don't think she'll do it. She's a pioneer already and doesn't need the cash spectacle.
Nope. WNBA players max salary is $235,000. She's gonna make 14 years worth of WNBA salary in one summer if she takes this deal. She'd be stupid to pass it up.
Quote from: madbadger on March 29, 2024, 11:03:30 AMNope. WNBA players max salary is $235,000. She's gonna make 14 years worth of WNBA salary in one summer if she takes this deal. She'd be stupid to pass it up.
Exactly.
With that said, my hope is that she'll be a change agent for women's basketball. If anyone has the potential to do that, it's her.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 29, 2024, 11:11:48 AMExactly.
With that said, my hope is that she'll be a change agent for women's basketball. If anyone has the potential to do that, it's her.
I don't think women's sports will ever approach the popularity of the men's version of the sport. They're clearly talented but unless you love fundamentals more than pace of play there really is no reason to watch the WNBA over the NBA.
Quote from: madbadger on March 29, 2024, 11:14:57 AMI don't think women's sports will ever approach the popularity of the men's version of the sport. They're clearly talented but unless you love fundamentals more than pace of play there really is no reason to watch the WNBA over the NBA.
Yeah I didn't mean to suggest it would come close to the NBA. I don't think that for a second. I meant more that I hoped it could gain more popularity than it currently has, which, prior to Clark, has been pretty close to zero, despite ESPN's efforts to equalize the narrative of the two sports.
Women's tennis might be a comp of what I would hope women's hoops could one day be (relative to its male counterpart). With a major star like Caitlin Clark acting as something of a pioneer, I think the sport could gain some popularity over the coming decade.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 29, 2024, 11:18:47 AMYeah I didn't mean to suggest it would come close to the NBA. I don't think that for a second. I meant more that I hoped it could gain more popularity than it currently has, which, prior to Clark, has been pretty close to zero, despite ESPN's efforts to equalize the narrative of the two sports.
Women's tennis might be a comp of what I would hope women's hoops could one day be (relative to its male counterpart). With a major star like Caitlin Clark acting as something of a pioneer, I think the sport could gain some popularity over the coming decade.
Is women's tennis popular now that the William's sisters are retired? I think Clark will have a similar impact on womens basketball but once she's done I see the sports popularity regressing to the mean without her being the face of the sport. I find the open hatred towards Clark from current and former WNBA troubling. A rising tide lifts all boats yet they seem hell bent on sinking the boat.
Quote from: madbadger on March 29, 2024, 11:48:51 AMIs women's tennis popular now that the William's sisters are retired? I think Clark will have a similar impact on womens basketball but once she's done I see the sports popularity regressing to the mean without her being the face of the sport. I find the open hatred towards Clark from current and former WNBA troubling. A rising tide lifts all boats yet they seem hell bent on sinking the boat.
I'd say the gap in popularity (and pay) between women's and men's professional tennis versus basketball is smaller. I think Wimbledon (for example) pays the women's champ the same amount as the men's champ. No doubt male tennis stars make much more than women overall (when you count all income), but it's nothing like basketball. Serena's net worth is estimated at $300mm. Granted she is iconic.
I think women's tennis is less of a draw now that Serena is done, yes. They don't have a superstar of that magnitude right now, although Cocoa Gauff has a chance to be fairly substantial.
I'd like to think Clark can elevate the WNBA somewhat when she gets there. It will never come close to the NBA for the reasons you cited, but maybe it can get a little more interest (and hence money for the players).
Let's see how she does in the WNBA first.
Quote from: madbadger on March 29, 2024, 11:14:57 AMI don't think women's sports will ever approach the popularity of the men's version of the sport. They're clearly talented but unless you love fundamentals more than pace of play there really is no reason to watch the WNBA over the NBA.
Would you say the same about Women's Football/ Soccer?
Cheers!
Quote from: madbadger on March 29, 2024, 11:14:57 AMI don't think women's sports will ever approach the popularity of the men's version of the sport. They're clearly talented but unless you love fundamentals more than pace of play there really is no reason to watch the WNBA over the NBA.
It's kind of why watching women's golf is sort of interesting for men as the female pros dont hit nearly as far as the men so hacks like me can watch pro women use clubs I'd use for those distances.
Quote from: Painter on March 30, 2024, 12:01:24 PMWould you say the same about Women's Football/ Soccer?
Cheers!
Absolutely. Compared to men's futbol, women's futbol seems like it is in slow motion.
Quote from: Painter on March 30, 2024, 12:01:24 PMWould you say the same about Women's Football/ Soccer?
Cheers!
Absolutely. Why do you think the payout for winning the men's World Cup is four times what it is for the women?
If I were her I wouldn't do it. I say this as a fan of hers and someone rooting for her to be just as great in the WNBA. The simple fact is that a good H.S. basketball team would beat not only any college team but also any WNBA team. If she got humiliated it would hurt her image and jeapordize future earnings.
Quote from: FL GMAN on March 31, 2024, 10:00:22 AMIf I were her I wouldn't do it. I say this as a fan of hers and someone rooting for her to be just as great in the WNBA. The simple fact is that a good H.S. basketball team would beat not only any college team but also any WNBA team. If she got humiliated it would hurt her image and jeapordize future earnings.
I thought he was expanding his league to include all women's teams that would face one another not having a woman playing against men, which IMHO would be foolish.
I much prefer the WCBB/WNBA to the NBA/MCBB. The technique is off the charts as is the fundamentals and games are usually more exciting.
Quote from: madbadger on March 30, 2024, 07:57:50 PMAbsolutely. Why do you think the payout for winning the men's World Cup is four times what it is for the women?
Forget payout. There never will be anything remotely comparable between men's and women's pay, and not just because of the absurdity of men' major sports contacts. I was referring to the enormous viewership, eyeballs, and interest that now a accompanies women's football and has certain tennis players and tournaments.
Cheers!
Then I misunderstood the post, my apologies.
QuoteHow much is Caitlin Clark going to make in the WNBA?
Clark, this year's No. 1 draft pick in the WNBA, will have a starting salary of $76,535 and earn roughly $338,000 over the four-year contract she signed with the Fever.
She should have taken Ice Cube's 5 million. The highest paid WNBA players make about $250,000 per year. She'll never make up the difference.
CC will make millions in endorsement deals. Let's not cry too much that the WNBA salary is not massive. If the league starts to make money those salaries will also go up.
Bill
How much of the media attention on Clark is because she is white? Would a black female accomplishing what Clark did be receiving the same attention? How many of you would even care or be posting about it?
Another thing to remember amid all the outrage is a rookie contract is a rookie contract for a reason- she has, as yet, done nothing at the professional level to warrant an outsized contract compared to current vets. Not saying she won't- just that she hasn't yet. Like every other rookie contract in any pro sport.
She'll make her money outside the WNBA:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10117429-report-wnbas-caitlin-clark-nike-nearing-8-figure-contract-with-signature-shoe?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Quote from: Bill Brown on April 18, 2024, 05:50:07 AMCC will make millions in endorsement deals. Let's not cry too much that the WNBA salary is not massive. If the league starts to make money those salaries will also go up.
Bill
But even if she makes it to the top of the WNBA, what's the most she can hope to make, half a million? Which is twice what the top players make now?
But you're right that nothing changes until (unless) the league starts to make money. But there is no sign that's going to happen.
Assuming Ice Cube was serious, she had a one time chance to secure her financial future and turned it down. I hope for her sake she made the the right decision.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 18, 2024, 01:19:54 PMBut even if she makes it to the top of the WNBA, what's the most she can hope to make, half a million? Which is twice what the top players make now?
But you're right that nothing changes until (unless) the league starts to make money. But there is no sign that's going to happen.
I would have 1000% agreed with you on this until a few weeks ago when her games were some of the highest rated basketball games EVER - and not just for women. I was watching.... Then they just had a WNBA draft that crushed all previous versions, ratings wise.
I'm not saying the WNBA can parlay this into a huge payday...but it's a lot more possible than I would have thought even just a couple weeks ago. If they keep their (mostly manufactured...like most sports) rivalries alive, who knows?