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#11
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by uconnjack8 - Today at 02:24:21 PM
Larry,

That's one of the reasons I wish they would have graded the front 7 as a group and not had Burns and Thibodeaux as OLBs.  Seems like they used "base" defense lineups to grade this even though teams are in "base" less than 30% of the time. 

#12
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by Painter - Today at 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: jgrangers2 on May 12, 2024, 09:32:58 PMAnd in looking at that article, the one place where I'd say they definitely haven't improved is the D-line simply because I don't know if there's anyone there with significant upside beyond Dex. With a group like the secondary, it may not be better NOW than it was when Gettelman left, but it could very well be in the future (gotta see how guys like Banks, Phillips and Nubin progress). When Schoen took over, I doubt many people would have expected James Bradberry to still be here in 2024.

You and I have a different perspective as to whether or not the D-line may be better this year than it was last year. Let me begin by saying that I was never able to recover from having witnessed the abomination of last season's 2-8 start in which the Wink Defense gave up 265 points bookended by 0-40 and 17-49 losses to the hated Cows. Whatever may be the why and how of it, process or personnel, I'm still gagging from the thought of it.

Okay, that was then and this is for now. And so, upon quieter reflection, I must acknowledge that my optimism may be flawed, and certainly is weakened by my "can't get any worse" perspective. That said, I do believe that Brian Burns will prove to be an major asset wherever Bowen places him among 3-,4-,5-man fronts.

In any case, I'm troubled to have to imagine myself in the more usual litany of fan behavior:

Raters  gonna rate.
Baiters gonna bait...or bate as the case may be.
Haters  gonna hate.
Skaters gonna skate.
Waiters gonna wait.

That last one does have some appeal.

Cheers!
#13
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants Player Development ...
Last post by uconnjack8 - Today at 01:33:50 PM
I agree that the team has not done a good job of getting the most out of their players, but I would disagree with some of those names in terms of being considered "marginal backups" at any point in time. 

Linval Joseph played his best ball after he left the Giants. 
Kareem McKenzie was a starter for the Giants day 1 and a good one.
Bradshaw didn't get many opportunities early.  Never saw him as marginal, but he did develop into a bigger role
#14
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones hate among sports pu...
Last post by sxdxca38 - Today at 01:25:59 PM
I also remember something Tom Coughlin said when certain players were complaining about the fans booing.

Coughlin said "Then don't give them a chance to boo."

If you play well the boos will disappear, it's that simple.

#15
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones hate among sports pu...
Last post by sxdxca38 - Today at 01:23:00 PM
Everyone here has a different opinion regarding DJ.

And in the end it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, the only thing that matters is how he and the Giants play during the regular season.

If he plays well and the Giants start winning again, the negative and critical comments will disappear, and he will remain the starting QB.

If he plays poorly, and the team continues to lose, then he will be released and a new QB will be brought in.

We will just have to see how this transpires.
#16
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones hate among sports pu...
Last post by Stringer Bell - Today at 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 07:51:32 AMThere are legitimate criticisms and concerns about Daniel Jones, and then there is an unhealthy obsession with seeking ways to put the man down.   The remarkable part is from everything we have seen of the man, he doesn't deserve the hate.  The man is among the hardest working (hardest luck) players in the NFL.  Yet there is this obsession with crapping all over him

No one should be surprised at this. It happens on this board all the time. Topics completely unrelated to DJ turn into a DJ dumping ground with regularity.

I agree there are legit questions and concerns. And I also agree that a large portion of fans and media seem to place too much focus on DJ when the reality is that there are plenty of other issues facing the Giants. And why drafting DJ's replacement was not going to be the panacea some thought it would be.
#17
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones hate among sports pu...
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 12:44:44 PM
#18
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Daboll sees Flott as the f...
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:33:10 AMI wouldn't argue that you're wrong (I do hope so, but that's hope).  I am somewhat comforted by the idea that Flott will need to beat out Hawkins and McCloud to win that job.
I hope so too.
#19
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT: NY Rangers 2023 - 202...
Last post by files58 - Today at 10:45:03 AM
"Players like Bennett should have a price tag on their head because their world centers on do whatever you have to for the win."

The bolded is what the Cup playoffs are all about. It's a war of wills, combined with the necessary talent level. That's what makes the playoffs so compelling. Bennet took it to a limit. Ok, in return he needs to be chopped down like an old oak. The McAvoy hit in the opening minute was nice, but since the league sat on their pucks the Bruins should have found a way within the game framework to take him out. It's one thing to do what he did to a 3rd or 4th liner, but Marchand. The heart of the Bruins, and no nuclear reply. Really from the Bruins. Where's Terry O'Reilly when you need him. The only reply is a wipeout. Not doing so gives Florida a huge emotional edge. Hence the Bruins are down 3-1. I've been watching Bobrovski throuhout the two rounds. He's been really good, but is starting to show a crack here and there. Besides who would you rather face should the Rangers advance him or Swayman.
Look for the Canes to accidentally on purpose take a run or two at Igor. The Rangers tonight have to play their best game of the playoffs so far.

 
#20
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Daboll sees Flott as the f...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 10:15:43 AMFlott is 6'0.5. He came out of College at 165 lbs. He's still a lightweight at 175. If Daboll likes him outside, it portends the type of Coverage the new DC will employ. He is not a Press Corner. Unfortunately, he has not improved over the years and is not only a liability in Run Support, he gets manhandled by bigger Receivers. Although he has decent back-peddle and fluid hips, he's not fast and can get faked out by jukes. He has short arms, small hands, a weak Span, and a lousy Vertical. His size was good for the Slot but his weak Run Support was an issue and I remember sitting with Bobby Skinner at Camp discussing the frustration with Flott. Of course, anyone was better than Darnay Holmes. Put him on the outside and he's going to get burned over the top and fall down and play dead at second-level Run Support. Saquon Barkley is licking his chops just thinking about it. Sorry Ric @Jolly Blue Giant, but you and I are going to have to disagree on this one. He's getting bumped by Phillips who will have the same issues but at least he's more physical although a bad tackler. If an aging Adoree was a 7, Flott is a 5.

I wouldn't argue that you're wrong (I do hope so, but that's hope).  I am somewhat comforted by the idea that Flott will need to beat out Hawkins and McCloud to win that job.
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