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#21
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Bellinger vs Theo Johnson
Last post by Trench - Today at 04:23:28 PM
Bellinger didn't have as much a drop off as his role simply changed. Because of Waller he lost reps. Because of the oline he was asked to be primarily a blocker. When the ball was thrown to him he caught it. Did his job just fine.
#22
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Bellinger vs Theo Johnson
Last post by Painter - Today at 04:17:42 PM
I assume that Waller will retire and return the starting job to Bellinger from whom he took it last season and was clearly the better of the two in his 12 games played than Bellinger was in all 17. And so in that case, Bellinger will again be TE1 unless he loses it to this year's fellow 4th Round pick Theo Johnson. As for Jack Stoll, the Eagles UFA castoff, he's had only 20 catches in 3 years which sounds a lot like like a spare to me.

Cheers!
#23
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 02:24:21 PMLarry,

That's one of the reasons I wish they would have graded the front 7 as a group and not had Burns and Thibodeaux as OLBs.  Seems like they used "base" defense lineups to grade this even though teams are in "base" less than 30% of the time. 


I all comes down to positional responsibilities. The 3/4 Mike has more coverage responsibilities and the 3/4 Edge do not. That's why I separate the LB's from the DLine. I am curious if Thibs and Burn have the sand in their pants to transition to DE responsibility. If so, the Giants are a 3 Tech away. Simmons would be my Will and McFadden my Sam.
#24
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Bellinger vs Theo Johnson
Last post by T200 - Today at 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 09:33:44 AMI wouldn't think you would consider this a Daniel Jones issue because Bellinger shined with DJ as QB in 2022.  That was until he sustained a serious eye injury.  Bellinger never was the same when he returned from that injury in 2022 and didn't regain his rookie magic in 2023
I wonder if the damage was mental as well as physical. Could he be playing scared?
#25
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by Painter - Today at 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 02:24:21 PMLarry,

That's one of the reasons I wish they would have graded the front 7 as a group and not had Burns and Thibodeaux as OLBs.  Seems like they used "base" defense lineups to grade this even though teams are in "base" less than 30% of the time. 


I think of it and feel the same as you, Matt. As for Burns and Thibs and indeed for Ojulari, I see them as Edge players who in a given situation may line up as a DE in a 3- 4-, or 5- in making up of the front 7 with Okereke, and McFadden, or Simmons at ILB. 

Cheers!   
#26
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Bellinger vs Theo Johnson
Last post by TONKA56 - Today at 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 09:26:00 AMBellinger needs to focus less on his biceps and more on making an NFL body

I suspect Bellinger's issue is more with his  vision and less on doing too many arm curls. 
#27
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by uconnjack8 - Today at 02:24:21 PM
Larry,

That's one of the reasons I wish they would have graded the front 7 as a group and not had Burns and Thibodeaux as OLBs.  Seems like they used "base" defense lineups to grade this even though teams are in "base" less than 30% of the time. 

#28
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by Painter - Today at 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: jgrangers2 on May 12, 2024, 09:32:58 PMAnd in looking at that article, the one place where I'd say they definitely haven't improved is the D-line simply because I don't know if there's anyone there with significant upside beyond Dex. With a group like the secondary, it may not be better NOW than it was when Gettelman left, but it could very well be in the future (gotta see how guys like Banks, Phillips and Nubin progress). When Schoen took over, I doubt many people would have expected James Bradberry to still be here in 2024.

You and I have a different perspective as to whether or not the D-line may be better this year than it was last year. Let me begin by saying that I was never able to recover from having witnessed the abomination of last season's 2-8 start in which the Wink Defense gave up 265 points bookended by 0-40 and 17-49 losses to the hated Cows. Whatever may be the why and how of it, process or personnel, I'm still gagging from the thought of it.

Okay, that was then and this is for now. And so, upon quieter reflection, I must acknowledge that my optimism may be flawed, and certainly is weakened by my "can't get any worse" perspective. That said, I do believe that Brian Burns will prove to be an major asset wherever Bowen places him among 3-,4-,5-man fronts.

In any case, I'm troubled to have to imagine myself in the more usual litany of fan behavior:

Raters  gonna rate.
Baiters gonna bait...or bate as the case may be.
Haters  gonna hate.
Skaters gonna skate.
Waiters gonna wait.

That last one does have some appeal.

Cheers!
#29
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants Player Development ...
Last post by uconnjack8 - Today at 01:33:50 PM
I agree that the team has not done a good job of getting the most out of their players, but I would disagree with some of those names in terms of being considered "marginal backups" at any point in time. 

Linval Joseph played his best ball after he left the Giants. 
Kareem McKenzie was a starter for the Giants day 1 and a good one.
Bradshaw didn't get many opportunities early.  Never saw him as marginal, but he did develop into a bigger role
#30
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones hate among sports pu...
Last post by sxdxca38 - Today at 01:25:59 PM
I also remember something Tom Coughlin said when certain players were complaining about the fans booing.

Coughlin said "Then don't give them a chance to boo."

If you play well the boos will disappear, it's that simple.

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