Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: PSUBeirut on May 21, 2024, 07:12:43 PMI think there's also a good number of folks in the fanbase that are still stung by Barkley essentially being right all along about his worth on the market and pretty much everyone else being wrong.  Even the bitcoin thing he took so much slack for looks to have bounced back in a huge way (if he even stuck with it...who knows). 

And Rich- I have an awful feeling that the hype train is not going to be the only thing to worry about when Barkley comes to town.  My gut having watched him for many years is that he's going to want to ring it up against us because of all the silly fan vitriol that's been spewed his way (and I think the Eagles staff, being the a-holes they are, will absolutely work to accommodate this happening).  So, that's definitely my bigger worry when he comes back to town. 

As for me- no surprises here, I'm hoping he finally gets a creative OC and a solid OL to run behind- and, even if diminished by injury, gets back to that upper echelon of RB that he's worked so hard to be.  Just not against us.

I don't think anyone was right or wrong about the RB market.  Part of the free agent value is tied to the positional strength of the draft, especially for a position like RB.  Last year there was a bumper crop of high end RBs to draft.  This year, not so much.

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Quote from: Philosophers on May 21, 2024, 10:24:06 AMHe's not so special that if the OL only allows a very amount of time before a QB gets hit that he will be effective.  NFL CBs can tie him early for a split second to screw up any effectiveness.  It's about the OL. 

Joe, I agree.   The O-line play is more likely to be the limiting factor, than QB.   Even if Jones is ineffective upon his return, they have Lock.

Quote from: T200 on May 21, 2024, 02:52:52 PMHe was a good Giant and I bear no ill-will towards him. If he succeeds elsewhere, even with a rival, I'm happy for him.

If we can post every failure of Toney's and he was barely here, I can only imagine what we're going to see every time Barkley comes up short.

I hear you.   I can only speak for myself, but I will not be celebrating if he struggles nor will I be upset if he succeeds.   There are some players I don't like, like Aaron Rodgers, who I like to see struggle and there are players I am happy to see them enjoying success, like Purdy.  Barkley just doesn't move the needle for me.   That said, I am dreading the Barkley hype train leasing up to the Giants VS Eagles games, as it just seems forced by the media.

Quote from: T200 on May 21, 2024, 01:21:17 PMAnticipating all the Barkley threads from the "I don't care" contingent     

I am in the don't care camp, but I think you're correct.   I think their are two aspects to this.  There is Barkley the person and Barkley the asset.   As a person, his success or failure doesn't phase me because he is no longer on the team (for some reason, I never really warmed up to the guy, even though he carried himself well).   There is also Barkley the asset and his success and failure reflects on Joe Schoen and the decisions he made.  So I could see that aspect being discussed.

I am of two mindsets on Miller.

1)  I like his measurables and his back story.

2)  I am mindful that between the college portal and general college scouting, if he had a natural talent, he would have been playing for a big program sooner than he did.  Admittedly, there is some uncertainty here, but you would think his backstory would have included turning down scholarship offers at some point.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 19, 2024, 12:38:42 PMLenn,

In a sense, we sort of have heard the police's side of the story. They released an official police report detailing their account of the incident, and they brought charges against Scheffler. To me that qualifies as their "side" of the story.

As far as people auto-assuming things that suit an agenda, I know where you're coming from there, and I try not to always auto-assume the worst about cops until I have enough information where I feel that view is firmly backed up by facts. What I would say though is Scheffler has a pretty pristine reputation and is universally considered a great guy, a family guy, a person of faith, etc. He is the last person anyone would consider a trouble maker. While none of that guarantees he did not step over the line in this incident, his reputation probably earns him the benefit of the doubt, which, quite frankly, everyone accused of a crime in this country is entitled to.

Jeff,

That was very well said     A man spends a lifetime building/earning a reputation and that reputation should mean something in times like this. To assume this man is guilty is just plain wrong. 

Standing next to 6' 5" 315 pound Andrew Thomas



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I am going to take the optimistic view on the various Giants issues:


1)  Coaching-  Daboll has learned from his earlier mistakes, and his coaching staff adjustments will have this staff firing on all cylinders this season rather than fighting among themselves

2)  The offensive line-  Between the infusion of veteran talent (who knows what it takes to play O-line in the NFL) and a new O-line coach (who never coached a unit that wasn't in PFF's top 10), this unit will finally break free of its decade-plus stretch of futility and poor play

3)  Quarterback play-  Between Daniel Jones and Drew Lock, one of them will elevate their game to provide the team with solid QB play.

4)  Injuries-  While the Giants failed to remove Ronnie Barnes, the team did bring back Aaron Wellman, who as the Strength and Conditioning coach and has proven he can reduce injury.  We can look forward to a middle-of-the-pack injury season rather than leading the league.

5)  Pass Rush-  The addition of Burns to Thibs and Dex will make the Giants pass rush something that keeps OCs up at night.

6)  Explosive plays-   The Giants lost Barkley, but frankly, he was living on reputation.   He wasn't providing the explosive plays a star provides either on the ground or through the air.  Malik Nabers will change that, and his presence will allow others like Robinson and Hyatt to join in on the fun.

So by drinking the Kool-Aid, this team will be going to the playoffs again like they did in 2022.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 18, 2024, 08:14:02 PMA good policeman can make split decisions and manage his emotions and calm things down. A bad one gives an order and beats a person up for hesitating.

I see many who support the authoritarian view that police must be obeyed without question and that's the end of the story. However, I tend to favor Joe's view. The police represent us as the enforcers of our laws.  They need to be in control of their emotions, and their goal should always be to de-escalate rather than make things worse. 

A minor situation like this should never result in a good man without any criminal inclination being arrested and thrown in jail.   That is not how I (as a member of society) want or believe how our laws should be enforced.


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As Scheffler pulled up to the left of ESPN's vehicle, Wischusen said he and his ESPN colleagues could not see who was at the wheel. Moments later, a police officer "kind of jumped in front" of what the ESPN crew would later learn was a Lexus driven by Scheffler. "He was pretty, you know, enthusiastic, let's say," Wischusen said of Officer Gillis. Wischusen said Gillis beamed his flashlight up and down Scheffler's car and yelled at him with words to the effect of: "Whoa, whoa, whoa, who are you? Where are you going? Get back in line. You're not allowed to come through here."

Wischusen said he couldn't hear any of what Scheffler said to Gillis but that Gillis was "scolding" Scheffler for passing the ESPN vehicle on the left. Wischusen said because the officer and his colleagues were in yellow reflective jackets, it was unclear to him and his colleagues whether they were police or tournament security.   

After Scheffler and the officer's interaction, Wischusen said Scheffler began to pull away. As Darlington described it, at this point Gillis "attached himself" to the car. As Gillis, whose body camera was not activated during the incident, described it, he was "dragged" to the ground by Scheffler's car, which led to "pain, swelling and abrasions to left wrist and knee" and damaging his pants "beyond repair."   

Here's how Wischusen recalls that moment: "When [Scheffler] drove past him, the cop got very angry pursuing the car. ... My impression was he was kind of running alongside chasing the car, and maybe he tripped and fell. I mean, there was kind of an outcropping or medium, you know, by the front gate. And keep in mind, it was raining. It was 6 o'clock in the morning. It was dark."

Asked about Darlington's characterization of the officer "attaching" himself to the car, Wischusen said, "I could see him stumble, but I did not have a very clear view of exactly how you want to categorize his contact with the car."

Wischusen said Scheffler was moving at a relatively slow speed — "the speed that you would drive a car if you were pulling up to the front gate of a place," he said — and before pulling over had driven approximately the 10 or so yards that Darlington had estimated.

When Scheffler stopped the car, Wischusen said Gillis was visibly upset. "He runs up to the driver's side, and with the butt end of his flashlight starts screaming, you know, 'Get out of the car, get out of the car' — banging on the window — 'shut the engine off, get out of the car. I'm a police officer.'"

The driver "peacefully" exited the car, Wischusen said, at which point the officer "put him up against the car and put him in handcuffs." Said Wischusen: "That was when we realized — you know, all the way up until then we're like, oh my God, whoever is in this car, there's about to be an arrest of some sort. And then it was, 'Oh my God, it's Scottie Scheffler."

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7 on 7

OFFENSE

Allows QB to practice going through progressions and throwing to receivers.  It also allows practicing of plays.

WRs practice running routes and practicing different plays.  Plus, catching the ball from the QB


DEFENSE

DBs and LBs practice various coverages as well as practice covering WRs

'Baby Bison': How SMU's Elijah Chatman's incredible strength sets him up for success
Chatman's been the strongest since he was a boy. That hasn't changed entering his senior year with the Mustangs.


Today, Chatman – known as the "Baby Bison," pronounced (BEE-ZAHN) with a French accent – is still not only the strongest at his school, but also one of the strongest college football players in the country. That seventh grader is now a senior defensive lineman for SMU. He can now bench 500 pounds. His current record for reps of 225 pounds – a day after lifting, at that – is 42. He did it to end summer workouts this year. Only 11 players in the history of the NFL Combine have done more.

But Chatman is more than his strength. He was a second-team all-conference selection last season. In the last month or so he's been named to numerous watch lists. In addition, with his immense strength, and his 6-foot size, he was named to Bruce Feldman's annual "freaks list" in college football – an honor given to college football players who can bring something unique to the table.

"He's a guy, man," said SMU defensive line coach Calvin Thibodeaux, a longtime coach at Oklahoma prior. "There's just so much power."

And with great power, comes great potential: a narrative that's always followed the Baby Bison.

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