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a couple i didnt see mentioned. Patti Smith Laura Branigan

Quote from: Philosophers on May 12, 2024, 08:25:41 PMOn Giants.com he is listed at 6'2" and 175 pounds.  Not a better source than that.  That's rail thin.

The NFL Combine lists him at 6'0½ / 175 lbs. So, if Giants.com is right, then he's grown taller by a couple inches while maintaining his teenage weight, which would make him look like a "walking stick" as he'd be even thinner than when he was 19 yrs old

Personally, I don't think the Giants (or any team) routinely measures and weighs their players and they definitely do not report it to the masses through a media source. Hence, the reason it's almost always done coming out of college in preparation for enormous contracts, so teams know exactly what they're getting (knowing full well programs lie...or putting it more kindly, "exaggerate"). Colleges are notoriously bad at telling the truth about the size of their players...especially basketball where they will call a 6'7 guy, 6'10 in the news or in programs. Regardless, teams misreport player physical data all the time

The military does a good job of measuring (used to anyway, they probably use DNA now). For height, they lay you (naked) flat on your back like on a giant caliper (think shoe-size measuring contraptions at shoe stores) to get exact measurements. Probably because they need the data to identify your dead body in the absence of other identification, should the need be. The combine uses similar methods, including lasers, radar, exacting tools, and other precision equipment, that are not used by teams. Once a player reaches the NFL, height, weight, etc., it is irrelevant and private info, unless the player reveals his personal information. I don't trust any figures released by a team, which probably enters into the legal ramifications of HIPAA laws, if numbers are even close to being precise

If I were to take a gander at a precise height/weight on Flott, I'd put it closer to 6'/190+ lbs. But that's all anyone can do because his real numbers are private

Quote from: ralphpal1 on May 12, 2024, 10:15:02 PMInstead of Neal we could.of drafted G Wilson
Every GM misses
But its more important why they missed
What did they see in Neal
That he is not doing now
Also what faults did they see and thought they were able to.fix and why isnt it being fixed

I think one of the issues with Neal is that they drafted a LT to play RT and not everyone can make that switch. 

Quote from: files58 on May 12, 2024, 08:55:53 PM"For files58, what did you think about that right poke Bennett gave Marchand thar the refs missed that the whole world is talking about?"

So until just a few minutes ago when they showed a close up replay of Bennet's punch to Marchand's head did I know it was so egregious. When watching the game real time I thought it was a borderline high hit. He punched him, plain and simple. The league should have suspended Bennet. My on ice solution is as follows. First a little history. My worst Ranger moment(there have been too many) was Game 7 1974 against the Flyers when Schultz beat the crap out of non-fighter Dale Rolfe, and not one Ranger came to his defense. Since then I have always thought that Ranger management should teach a few of their players how to fight, and/or some Martial Art punching. In this view since the league didn't step up right now Bennet would be out for the rest of the playoffs with a swollen face eyes almost shut missing about 6-10 teeth. That ability would only be used in a defensive or necessary retaliatory manner, not as an offensive weapon. Hockey is a beautiful, talent laden sport, but it's also violent. If the league allows fighting you might as well be really good at it, just like winning face-offs. Call it a "nuclear detterent" if you will.   

Great feedback, thank you!

On the martial arts, we know that professionals in various sports train in different martial arts disciplines for better body balance, self-defense techniques and inner confidence.

Players like Bennett should have a price tag on their head because their world centers on do whatever you have to for the win. You have to be ready to counter as soon as they play that hand. That shootout win at the Garden against Florida was encouraging because the Rangers took it to them and stayed on top of them. With Florida now up 3-1 on Boston, it's looking like that's the next obstacle.

We'll see if the Rangers tighten up the D for Game Five.

Peace!

Quote from: Sem on May 12, 2024, 07:03:31 PMOr 52 years ago when they drafted a 6'1" DT named John Mendenhall in the third round.

Nice comparison!

Instead of Neal we could.of drafted G Wilson
Every GM misses
But its more important why they missed
What did they see in Neal
That he is not doing now
Also what faults did they see and thought they were able to.fix and why isnt it being fixed

To me, you can argue whether the team is better but, to me, it comes down more to process than personnel. The big issue in truly judging Schoen's tenure is that he has not had a chance to get HIS QB. The Giants have played themselves out of the top QBs in each year he's been here.

And in looking at that article, the one place where I'd say they definitely haven't improved is the D-line simply because I don't know if there's anyone there with significant upside beyond Dex. With a group like the secondary, it may not be better NOW than it was when Gettelman left, but it could very well be in the future (gotta see how guys like Banks, Phillips and Nubin progress). When Schoen took over, I doubt many people would have expected James Bradberry to still be here in 2024.

Quote from: Gmo11 on May 12, 2024, 08:43:46 PMTo be clear I'm not absolving him of anything. I was only saying that despite the other things he's tried if Neal had been as advertised it helps an awful lot. And on that one pick I don't really blame him. Busts are gonna happen to everyone in that position but you can either do your best to minimize the risk or do the opposite like Gettleman. I prefer schoens approach.

I'm also not ready to write off JMS who I really did like as a prospect. I think he's got a leap in him perhaps with a proper OL coach now he'll make it. 

I hear you and don't disagree. If Neal had lived up to his billing and turned into a Tyler Conklin/Tristan Wirfs caliber RT, things would have been very different.