Quote from: 4thand17 on March 02, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
Isn't he supposedly one of the "short arm" brigade.
Doesn't make a difference. Lamp is a guard. Short arms or wingspan is only important for tackles.
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Isn't he supposedly one of the "short arm" brigade.
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 01, 2017, 10:58:06 AM
Yes and no
Obviously, you can't use the Combine as a way to stack players on your draft board. The Combine is a tool and like many tools, there are other tools that need to be used as well in order to complete the job.
There are players who will see their draft value rise or fall based on the combine. It could be a failed medical, a poor interview, a slow or fast 40 time, a measurement that isn't nearly as good as their college list, a QB hand size, and offensive lineman's arm length. Outliers good or bad tend to push a guy's draft stock down (at least for some teams) and good outliers in events relevant to the position will cause teams to reevaluate or some times to push the prospect's draft value upward.
Quote from: MP21WAYS2PAY on February 26, 2017, 06:03:39 AM
If the worst case scenario is we come out of the 1st round with a elite/very good corner, I will sleep well. I know there are some great TE options at the top of the draft, and I would be thrilled to get one of them, but the draft is also deep at TE, so if we can get a very good TE in round 2 or 3, I am ok with that.
Quote from: Bob In PA on February 26, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Ed: I'm referring to the fact that the draft is a crap-shoot to start with, so long runs of bad results in the later rounds are not a great surprise to me.
MOST draft picks after round three are already more likely than not to fail, so there are bound to be runs of what I term "bad luck" (meaning that the long-shots just never seem to come in).
I wonder how the data you cited compares to the first six years under George Young or Ernie Accorsi - or - how it compares to the same sixyear period for the Patriots (for example), but I'm too lazy to do the work, so I'm just going to go and look it up, hopefully for my own edification. For the record, I believe I will find that they fared no better.
Bob
PS. A comparison to the Seahawks' past six drafts might be even more interesting.
PPS. I was too lazy to look up anything except the Seahawks, and I discovered an almost unheard-of run of great drafts, BUT all or virtually all of the successful picks were above round 4. In fact, IMO, they picked more crap in rounds 4-7 during the past six years than the Giants. Of course, my knowledge of their roster is a lot less "in-depth" than my knowledge of the Giants' roster.
Quote from: Bob In PA on February 25, 2017, 10:06:56 AM
sooner: There is a high likelihood that the best player will be a CB; it's possible they could hope to trade down if that happens.
Generally, it will be interesting to see whether they stick to best-player-available strategy throughout this draft, because it is so deep.
If it does turn out to be a cornerback, I think they will take him IF they think he can cover the slot.
Bob
Quote from: UKGiantsFan on February 22, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
Can't see any way that LT Ryan Ramczyk is available at #23 (I'm not a Cam Robinson fan). However trading up 5 spots for him would only cost a 3rd rounder so if JPP is re-signed this becomes a more feasible possibility. Dark horse is LT Antonio Garcia. Forget the 1-on-1 practices at the Senior Bowl, it's different 11-on-11 and he did well in those and the game itself. Unlike Flowers he can move his feet and he doesn't duck his head and get bull rushed back!
I really like Moton as an RT option (and he can play RG too) but he is unlikely to be on my wish-list at #23. Trading back? Add to wish-list
DE Derek Barnett or Taco Charlton (whichever is left). I think Willis is too stiff. Prefer others to him even for R2
Going G is a possibility if we sign a LT in free agency and shift Flowers to RT but the quality likely available in R2 make it a better possibility. I can think of 5 guys I'd draft at RG at #55 and at least 2-3 might be there for us. All offer a good fit!
TE is an obvious need and my liking for Njuko was trumpeted the morning after we went out of the playoffs but there is depth and T/DE are bigger priorities if we have holes there
We can discount WR, C, CB, S and 3/4 edge rushing OLB's altogether.
At ILB there are a couple but it's a two down position in our defense and not worth it.
At OLB I really like the Temple kid who plays everywhere but with a healthy Kennard there isn't a natural post for him to start
At DT McDowell intrigues but I don't see a natural fit next to Snacks. The guys I like as a fit don't look like first rounder's to me pre-Combine
Dark horse is RB. Seriously! If Leonard Fournette was to drop I'd grab him in a heartbeat. Not as sure about Dalvin Cook. Dark horse? McCaffrey but only as a last resort. All have the speed and offer the explosive long distance threats that Perkins doesn't
Quote from: XNYrnLA on February 20, 2017, 01:00:56 AM
Todge,
The Patriots proved again that there is not a very specific size or speed requirement for Wide Receivers and possibly other skilled positions... the only requirement is talent and ability... the best barometer for equating that in prospects is achievement stats and this kid has proven he can play at a high level at the position.
Quote from: afan56 on February 18, 2017, 06:54:01 PM
I thought we needed a 6"3" or 6.'4" WR, not another one who may be 6'0" or 6'!".
Quote from: Cid in Dupont on February 14, 2017, 08:23:47 PM
Very interesting. Some of us (myself included) have openly stated that Taco Charlton (Michigan) could/would be the Giants pick at # 23 in the 1st round. He's not even on MM's list of the top 5 edge rushers or LBs. Hmmm...very interesting indeed.
Cid
Quote from: nflscouting on April 12, 2016, 04:37:17 PM
Love Jack, but I feel Lee is going to be the better pro. No disrespect to Jack, but I like him tons better as a Will guy inside or as a strong safety than on the flank. Big hitter, but he's a smart, savvy type I want directing traffic, not roaming the field on the edge