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Both of you are correct with D.

In any offensive interference, the offensive team cannot gain or benefit from it, so there is no way the runner can advance, he has to go back. Since the batter caused the interference, no matter whether intentional or not, there has to be a penalty for the interference. In this case, he is declared out, and, as I said, the runner goes back.

Another good thread reverting back to Jones. What is it with everyone, must everything be brought back to be about him?

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:45:32 AMhttps://x.com/kylelauletta/status/1791456383965032470

And, like the cop knows exactly who is in the car and what weapons they MIGHT have. It may seem like an ordinary traffic stop to some, but maybe the officer cares to come home to his wife and kids and wants to be extra careful.

I think any cop's job is difficult enough then to have people, whomever, not obey their orders.

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Is it too early to start our pre season predictions?

The Sporting News does this game by game--win/loss and has us 7-10

Week   Date   Opponent   Prediction
1   Sept. 8   vs   Minnesota Vikings   Win
2   Sept. 15   at   Washington Commanders   Win
3   Sept. 22   at   Cleveland Browns   Loss
4   Sept. 26   vs   Dallas Cowboys    Loss
5   Oct. 6   at   Seattle Seahawks   Loss
6   Oct. 13   vs   Cincinnati Bengals   Loss
7   Oct. 20   vs   Philadelphia Eagles   Loss
8   Oct. 28   at   Pittsburgh Steelers   Win
9   Nov. 3   vs   Washington Commanders   Win
10   Nov. 10   at   Carolina Panthers   Win
11   BYE   BYE
12   Nov. 24   vs   Tampa Bay Buccaneers   Loss
13   Nov. 28   at   Dallas Cowboys   Loss
14   Dec. 8   vs   New Orleans Saints   Win
15   Dec. 15   vs   Baltimore Ravens   Loss
16   Dec. 22   at   Atlanta Falcons   Win
17   Dec. 28 or 29   vs   Indianapolis Colts   Loss
18   Jan. 4 or 5   at   Philadelphia Eagles   Loss
Record prediction: 7-10

Again, I know it's early but we love these sorts of things.

Myself, I do not see us beating the Steelers in Pitts and the NO is a tossup as to how the season has progressed. I see us beating the Colts but after that, unless something drastic happens, I see a 6-11, 7-10 season.

 Here is today's question of the day.

1 out and a runner on 1st base

The runner is stealing on the pitch. The batter trying to protect the runner, swings and misses the pitch but his momentum carries him over home plate and sort of inhibits the catcher's throw to 2nd. The runner is safe at second.

Is this legal and play continues?

a---Batter stays up and the runner stays at 2nd as the batter's action wasn't intentional
b--- Batter stays at bat but the runner has to return to 1st base.
c--- Batter is out for interfering with the catcher's throw but the runner stays at 2nd
d---Batter is out for interfering with the catcher's throw and runner returns to 1st.
e-- it's a do-over

As best as I can.

In the first scenario, the ball went into dead area as a result of the defense. (Pitcher/catcher). The runner, who was on base is awarded one base regardless if he was running on the pitch. It is like any ball, on any play, going into dead area, if there are runners on, there have to be bases awarded. In this instance, the runner WAS going on the pitch, so he should not be penalized because the ball went into dead area not assisted by any offensive player.

In the second instance, the dead ball was called because it hit another offensive player and the defense wasn't able to even try to make a play on it. Because the defense (catcher) couldn't even attempt a play because of the dead ball, the defense shouldn't be penalized, even if it wasn't intentional. The runner has to go back.

It may sound complicated, but the baseball rulebook lists the cases when the ball is dead immediately and there are only a few--Hit batter, foul ball, ball going into dead area,  ball hits a runner in the field of play, ball hits an umpire in the infield. There might be one or two more but most times it is called a delayed dead ball so it gives the defense, or offense a chance to complete a play.  Even most balks nowadays are a delayed dead ball. Whenever there is a delayed dead ball, as an umpire, you let the play, play out and then award whatever penalty or award bases as so directed.
I am off to a game now, if you need further explanation I will try to explain it more clearly.

Over the past few years, my wife and I watch any number of shows about 'how America' was built, how Foods built America, how cars built America, Mega companies built America and now a new series has premiered, How Disney Built Ameria. There are probably others along the way, but we are facianted by some of these shows which tell us how certain companies got started, how certain name brand foods got started and built up a mass market etc. etc.

So on to Disney. As a child we grew up with Disney, we watched Mickey, we watched the Mickey Mouse Club. we had those stupid 'ears' and we also made the trek to Disneyworld (Florida). We still love the 'older' animated movies where Disney just had something special.

anyway, this new series How Disney Made America

 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32230356/

is very good. It really goes into detail about how he started his studio, what he had to go thru to get the first animated movie Snow White onto the screen now he has just completed Disneyland, and how he got the financing to make this happen. If anyone enjoys ser ies like these, it is an excellent watch.

Since both of us, the umpires had never really seen a play like that, we got together and used our best judgment and knowledge to make the call.

Since the rulebook says that if any pitched ball strikes the batter, it is a dead ball, regardless if it hits the ground first, that is what we used to make the ruling. The batter swinging at it makes no difference.
(If a better, say, squares to bunt and he offers at the pitch and in doing so, the pitch hits him, a strike is called as he did offer at the ball, and being hit has no relevance except making the ball dead)

Since it is now a dead ball, the runner had to return to 1st base, as that was his position at the time of the pitch.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 16, 2024, 09:15:30 AMhttps://x.com/BigBlueVCR/status/1790910036216091097

Just surprised they didn't have Strahan in that video. He WAs the face of the defense.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 16, 2024, 12:00:44 PMhttps://x.com/BigBlueVCR/status/1791110332993224807

 I hated those jerseys. Not because of any superstitions, just we just aren't a red jersey team.

 Not to veer off the topic, but it still pisses me off to no end that those Cowpukes are always home on Thanksgiving. They wormed their way into this. I couldn't care less that they play on Thanksgiving, but they shouldn't always have a home game.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 15, 2024, 07:57:24 PMLenn,

I am not surprised by the ranking.  The Giants offseason additions were not top echelon guys.  Thomas is the only guy on the line with any credentials for "rankings". 

I think if they had traded for or signed a pro-bowl caliber OL they might have been ranked higher.  They signed a lot of mediocrity and added that to  a group that mostly rated worse than mediocre.

I don't know if they will be better.  I think they could be.  It seemed like most of the signees were better pass blockers than run blockers.  Maybe they can find one thing they do well and have an identity.  That would be an improvement in my opinion. Last year they couldn't run or pass block.  If they pass block well, they might be able to set up the run via the pass.

I'll believe it when it I see it.

 Me also. But the point being, in a nutshell--WHY"

Why, when we already had the worst OL in the league, was this not addressed, even to the point of bringing in one quality guy to show fans that they are trying?
Yes, these new and hopefully, improved guys, maybe better than last year's crop (they certainly can't be worse), it just boggles my mind that we again are predicted to be at the bottom of the barrel, and management either doesn't care or is sluffing off on their jobs.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 07:50:59 PMI answered your question. Maybe it wasn't loud enough. It's stupid to evaluate an Offensive Line with two new veteran starters, a second year Center, a new Oline Coach and no playing time together. Including how injuries will impact the continuity.

If PFF can tell us we have the worst OL in the league right now, how can they evaluate it and make that statement?

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This year's Christmas Day double-header will begin with a matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Pittsburgh Steelers, followed by a game between the Baltimore Ravens and Houston Texans, the league said. Netflix is paying about $75 million a game this year, according to people familiar with the matter.

When our kicker is on a promotional poster and not our QB, says a lot about the opinion of where the talent lies on this team.