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Quote from: brownelvis54 on Today at 01:04:31 PMWhy do some teams get tons of picks? Example KC ?


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-full-team-by-team-list-of-every-player-who-signed-following-nfl-draft/

Every team has the same 90 guys going into camp.  The Giants seem to favor keeping all those still under contract from last season, including most of the PS, along with street free-agent signings after the season to fill out their 90 rather than going with big undrafted rookie classes.   It's a trend that seemed to start with Gettleman and continues under Schoen.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 01:00:43 PMadd in the kicker from Rutgers and that's about it.  The Giants UDRFA class had only 9 slots.  Even before Schoen and Daboll, the Giants didn't seem to be into big UDRFA classes.

Why do some teams get tons of picks? Example KC ?


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-full-team-by-team-list-of-every-player-who-signed-following-nfl-draft/

Thanks London, I feel better and defiantly more educated.....a poster pointed out this site as well. Tons of information (lots of it over my head), but still cool to look at.


https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-giants


AND all things that pertain to rule and Compensatory Picks


https://overthecap.com/

Quote from: brownelvis54 on Today at 12:59:07 PMRich, this is it?


Missouri OL Marcellus Johnson (source)
Wyoming WR Ayir Asante (source)
UConn WR Geordon Porter
Minnesota WR Chris Autman-Bell
Georgia Southern TE Jay McAfee
North Carolina T William Barnes
Oregon IDL Casey Rogers
LSU EDGE Ovie Oghoufo
UCLA CB Alex Johnson

add in the kicker from Rutgers and that's about it.  The Giants UDRFA class had only 9 slots.  Even before Schoen and Daboll, the Giants didn't seem to be into big UDRFA classes.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 12:05:04 PMDan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Adding North Dakota State OT Jake Kubas: $270K guaranteed. That's the richest guarantee I've seen aside from Colorado State CB Chig Anusiem, who the Giants were interested in but he fetched $350K guaranteed from Washington.

A practice squad salary for the full season is $225K. The Giants guaranteed Kubas $240K in salary plus a $30K signing bonus. Strong indication that they expect him to at least land on their P-squad (although with offsets, they'd only have $45K in dead money if they cut him and he signs with another team's PS).

Rich, this is it?


Missouri OL Marcellus Johnson (source)
Wyoming WR Ayir Asante (source)
UConn WR Geordon Porter
Minnesota WR Chris Autman-Bell
Georgia Southern TE Jay McAfee
North Carolina T William Barnes
Oregon IDL Casey Rogers
LSU EDGE Ovie Oghoufo
UCLA CB Alex Johnson

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2024, 02:37:34 PM@Bill Brown and @Sem

Bill mentioned this yesterday on the main forum.  From what I understand, this is sort of TV piracy for dummies.  The Superbox is essentially an overpriced android device that comes preloaded with what they call an unverified streaming service (a nice name, for they don't know if the programs are properly licensed).

The only real risk would be if the company gets sued and goes out of business (plus the sellers of the product face some risk, so they tend to be on the sleazy side).

You can actually download similar software to your computer or, say, a firestick that would do the same thing.

You can find all you need to know about this here:


https://troypoint.com/what-is-kodi/


https://www.firesticktricks.com/how-to-use-kodi.html

That website also discusses the Superbox, they are not fans

Thanks Rich. It seems like a lot of work to me. Perhaps I am too behind the times.

Tommy is worth trying to develop into a competent backup QB.  That is the best that can be expected.

Far be it for me to defend the Giants, as the last decade plus proves that they have been well behind average as a franchise, but this guy makes zero sense.  Take JJ just because positional value dictates a QB?  Take an OT and move him to ROT just like we did a few years ago?  And what, make trades to shake things up and be more inspiring?  This guy sounds like an idiot.

Sure, I could have made a good case to trade down in the first and get more picks and draft into the WR strength in the draft, but I give the Giants credit for not trading up, or not taking a QB at 6 they did not have convictions on.  They will be judged harshly if they missed on QB, but they didn't do the "easy" thing and pick a QB and try to do something with a player that they didn't believe in.

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on Today at 12:29:36 PMI'm pretty pro-analytics, but this guy is talking in a vacuum about historical draft value without any reference to what resources were available in this particular draft. Would it have been great if a top-tier, flawless edge was available at 6? Hell yeah! But no defensive player went until 15 for a reason. Understandably, this may be difficult to encapsulate in statistics... but then it's your job to call out the potential flaws and drawbacks from your approach, not double-down with criticism.

I think the bigger flaw is not fully appreciating the limitations of analytics.  If you are drafting a QB, you can't say, "Well, historically, you have less than a 50% chance of success with that pick".  Those sorts of claims hold true if you were drafting, say, a hundred QBs.  In that case, likely less than 50 would be hits.  However, in the case of a single pick, while those stats can give a vague sense of one's chances of success, the individual pick and the factors around that pick (support and coaching) will have a far greater impact.

I'm pretty pro-analytics, but this guy is talking in a vacuum about historical draft value without any reference to what resources were available in this particular draft. Would it have been great if a top-tier, flawless edge was available at 6? Hell yeah! But no defensive player went until 15 for a reason. Understandably, this may be difficult to encapsulate in statistics... but then it's your job to call out the potential flaws and drawbacks from your approach, not double-down with criticism.