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#21
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Would you rather
Last post by EDjohnst1981 - Today at 07:45:06 AM
Agreed, Jeff.
#22
The Front Porch / Re: NYT "Connections" Game
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 07:23:38 AM
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#23
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Rule 51 ? Are we in troubl...
Last post by londonblue - Today at 06:36:23 AM
He is right about most of the mechanics but is wrong about dead cap. The Dead Cap is factored into the preseason 51 calculation so we do have cap space right now. Our $19m dead against the cap is mid table (21/32).

NFL Cap 255.4m
Carried over 2.5
Adjustment 2.5*
Top 51 (235.0)
Dead Cap (19.0)
Available Cap 6.4
Data from OTC
* The adjustment is a technical credit

You typically need an extra $6m to cover incremental rookie contracts over the bottom guys on the 51. Another $5-6m is needed to cover the shift from 51 to 53 and inclusion of the PS (dependent on the make-up of the PS) so he is correct that our effective cap space is lower, in effect negative. In fact it is likely to be more negative once you include IR/PUP but not c. $18m.

In summary, he understands it better than most media but his dead cap error led him off course. He ignores the fact Giants have easy options to help manage the squeeze. There are several contract restructures to create space that we can do unilaterally (by rule, without any negotiation) and if Waller quits and we post June him we also gain space.

So, NO we are not in actual cap trouble but we are cap restricted, will have to do more cap management and cannot just offer big contracts to veterans to improve CB, DT, OL.

P.S. Restructures and post June designations do tend to create future dead cap but like every NFL team bar the extreme contract manipulators (New Orleans, potentially Philly in future with their increasing use of void years) we can manage this somewhat comfortably when the cap is rising.

Ideally you want to keep dead cap at a reasonable level and limit it to one year per contract (no void years). We might well have a bigger dead cap hit but more cap space next year if we cut Jones and draft a rookie. We would have a better cap platform for the future beyond 2025 as a result.

Here endeth my accountant geek out!
#24
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who do you have?
Last post by Jclayton92 - Today at 06:22:54 AM
Quote from: Topshelf21 on Today at 01:36:42 AMI thought he was the swiss army knife in college or am I mistaken about what I remember about Simmons?!?!
He was in college, playing a little bit of everywhere.
#25
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who do you have?
Last post by Topshelf21 - Today at 01:36:42 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 09:06:11 PMI think teams have made the mistake of trying him everywhere instead of sticking him somewhere permanently.

I thought he was the swiss army knife in college or am I mistaken about what I remember about Simmons?!?!
#26
Big Blue Huddle / Re: How do you feel about the ...
Last post by 4 Aces - May 01, 2024, 10:11:25 PM
We're at the point now where either the seeds sprout, or they don't.

For years, and certainly as Schoen's taken over, the Giants have been one of the youngest teams in the league:

RB - Drafted Gray (25) and Tracy (25) last 2 years. Are they players or do they suck? RB depth will be needed to do anything meaningful.
WR - If Nabers (21) and Hyatt (23) pop, and Robinson (23) keeps going, they could have one of the best trios in the league. If they don't, the worst.
TE - Bellinger (24) & Theo Johnson (23) are the potential difference makers. How good are they?
OL - The performance of the group swings on Schmitz (25) and Neal (24). 2 premium investments. 
CB - Banks (23), Flott (23), Robinson (26), Phillips (23) & Hawkins (24) are 5 planted seeds. This could sprout into a great situation or completely suck. 
S - Investments made in Nubin (23), Pinnock (25), Belton (24) & Owens (25). Solid 4-man group or a weakness?

Almost every position group hinges on how these youngsters (acquired by Schoen) come around. We could get a bumper crop, or starve to death.
#27
Big Blue Huddle / Rule 51 ? Are we in trouble?
Last post by brownelvis54 - May 01, 2024, 09:36:20 PM
I am confused about "The Rule of 51″




"The Rule of 51″
The NFL's Rule of 51 says that during the offseason, only the 51 most expensive contracts count against the team's salary cap, staying in effect until the start of the regular season. Once the regular season begins, all 53 players on the roster will count towards the salary cap, plus those on IR, Pup, and the practice squad.


https://en.as.com/nfl/2024-nfl-free-agency-the-salary-cap-explained-n/#:~:text=The%20NFL%27s%20Rule%20of%2051,start%20of%20the%20regular%20season.




According to the video, starts about the 5 minute mark, but the whole video is interesting. Basically money wise we are screwed. 17 players dead cap and if rule 51 expired we will be 14 - 18 million short? Is this guy correct?


#28
Big Blue Huddle / Re: How do you feel about the ...
Last post by brownelvis54 - May 01, 2024, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on April 30, 2024, 07:26:34 AMWhere's the "waiting for a QB" option?

Our QB room looks pretty bleak

Jones: two neck surgeries and an ACL

Drew Lock who couldnt beat out Teddy Bridgwater and Gino Smith (twice)

Cutlets, enough said
#29
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT - NY Knicks - 2023-202...
Last post by Section 101 Steve - May 01, 2024, 09:28:00 PM
And to add insult to injury the nba just announced with their 2 minute report that maxey's 4 point play should not have counted as he walked before the foul and shot. What a collossal screw up by the refs!!  :boooo:  :boooo: Where do the Knicks go to get their win they got robbed out of back?
#30
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants send a message to D...
Last post by kartanoman - May 01, 2024, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: PSUBeirut on April 29, 2024, 10:13:24 AMHe absolutely needs to show more fire and passion.  I definitely question whether Daboll and Schoen really need to send that message through the media, though.  If they feel they need to do it that way they're pretty shitty leaders and have been way too soft on DJ.  It's time to suck it up and perform or go home, simple as that.

I'm afraid I have to agree with this. It's kind of hard to show fire and passion after getting the daylights beaten out of you, game after game, and then have your knee shredded like southern BBQ.

But, maybe some QBs get fired up over that stuff; heck, I don't know! But, if they do, I can promise them, when they reach my age, they'll be popping and clinking around with their replacement knees and their hips on borrowed time ... take it to the bank!

Hoorah ... hips replaced tomorrow, my brain the following week ... I feel just as great as just before that first ACL tear ... I'm a rarin' to go!!!

Let's have a reality check on the fire lighting, unless you've brought the marshmallows!!

Peace!