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#21
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Slayton "should" be back
Last post by B1GBLUE - Today at 12:33:23 PM
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on May 07, 2024, 04:35:06 PMHence the reason I said, "percentage-wise". That list of the top 25 players for dropped passes is "percentage", and includes plenty of names that are considered stars of the game. Slayton has a better percentage average of caught passes. His low number of drops is not due to few passes, but ratjer that he catches more balls than average receivers..."percentage-wise"

But I couldn't agree more that "perception is reality" and perception always trumps facts and data...and Slayton has been called a pass dropping WR, so every drop screams to fans that the player is worthless, damn the facts. And you are also right that Slayton is not targeted as often as the stars of the game. And he will be targeted less now that we actually have a WR room to share the passes...and Nabers will get the bulk of them. Hopefully, some talking head doesn't call him a "pass dropper" or it will follow him throughout his career, even when he has a higher percentage of caught passes than other studs of the game

he's just gotta make one or two memorable great catches and the moniker will fall off. i believe he will do so.
#22
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by expatriot - Today at 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 12:29:43 PMSo, better than Mahomes 2023 season*?  Pretty high bar.

* 4183/27/14/3/0

Yes for a number 6 pick getting 40 mil per and Mahomes had a down year stats wise.
#23
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 12:29:43 PM
Quote from: expatriot on Today at 11:45:54 AMI think for the money he is paid, 4200+ yards, 35 TD's, 10 picks, only 2 lost fumbles and 5 rushing TD's would be my expectation. (somewhere around Jared Goff/Brock Purdy neighborhood give or take) Winning and losing is a team effort, so that aside, if I see these numbers, he's earned his bag in my view.

So, better than Mahomes 2023 season*?  Pretty high bar.

* 4183/27/14/3/0
#24
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Malik Nabers, Gambling, an...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 12:28:57 PM
If they both claim the bet was made before the draft, I am pretty sure the NFL gambling policy doesn't apply.   In that case, I would think the NFL would just tell them to rescind the bet.  Plus, when did the NFL inform these players of their gambling policy?   Also, when do drafted players officially become NFL players?
#25
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants sign a Qb
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 05:49:59 AMDeVito's pocket awareness is very good, I might even say special. Rourke must really be something. 

And yet with a better OL than the Giants provided to DJ at the beginning of the season, he was sacked 37 times and had a higher sack rates per drop back than Jones.  That doesn't sound very special to me.
#26
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Seems like a lot of commen...
Last post by Trench - Today at 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Painter on Today at 09:50:53 AMEither you're missing the point, or prefer less candor when it comes to taking exception to those who are so singly invested in the relentless bashing of Daniel Jones and ridiculing of the team for his presence.

By no means has been it a one-off or a "fool me once" failure-rooting exercise to which I am taking exception. If you don't like it, you can tsk, tsk about it all you like without having to whine to teacher. What do expect them to do, spank the armadillo? 

Cheers!


Your post makes no sense to me whatsoever. I have no ill will towards whatever you believe or root for. I simply ask you for the same courtesy.
#27
Big Blue Huddle / Malik Nabers, Gambling, and Id...
Last post by zephirus - Today at 12:16:24 PM
Malik Nabers and his former LSU teammate Jayden Daniels (selected 2nd overall) have confirmed across a couple podcasts that they have a 10k wager on Offensive Rookie of the Year. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/malik-nabers-jayden-daniels-10-144629179.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAK31MPpUflp7eX36ri48jUqOR9s9pWz2_JO_PuyF7xDWW3s-gVptfcQdhCHi0AsC4kqcOPPMgeY3Z4aBt7SOpIUHNAe6h05b6ZCcA9yxzLjm1BPmcw5rI1Ta2TnQf3VKsE26okeJb42L_3bkHk-CpBd6hFNd2Noq-Qt6ysTfncfc

Well written article and candidly points out how desensitized young players are now with regards to gambling.  They've grown up in an environment where it was a laughable offense to now where it's totally legal.  The NFL does NOTHING to discourage gambling, they saw free money and they took it and yet try to hold players to a standard that belies how complicit they are.  They slapped a few players with suspensions a few years ago and have since moved the goal-posts and changed the rules.  I don't know that anything will become of this, but shame on Malik Nabers for not knowing the rules.  Shame on him for unabashedly and publicly admitting to gambling.  Shame on Nabers and Daniels for making 5 figure bets in a profession they ultimately have not proven themselves in and their lifetime earnings may not reflect what they think they're going to make.  And shame on the NFL for not better educating players on the policy.
#29
Big Blue Huddle / Re: What does Daniel Jones nee...
Last post by expatriot - Today at 11:45:54 AM
I think for the money he is paid, 4200+ yards, 35 TD's, 10 picks, only 2 lost fumbles and 5 rushing TD's would be my expectation. (somewhere around Jared Goff/Brock Purdy neighborhood give or take) Winning and losing is a team effort, so that aside, if I see these numbers, he's earned his bag in my view.