Big Blue Huddle

Not me. Bad enough I have to watch them twice a year.

I like the helmets and jerseys.

Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 12:11:19 PMAt least 8 is featured.

The marketing department wasn't involved. 

He should have struck the pose in the logo. That would have been awesome. 

I wanna see the Wink tantrum.     

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 02:20:18 PMWouldn't Jones throwing to Nabors and Hyatt make for an exciting promotion. The team is struggling to find an identity and this was the best they could do.

The veiled conspiracy theory would be who will the starting QB be for the NY Giants when the media is dropping hints of a competition between two struggling passers.

And add Singletary as well. There's a new 26 in town.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 02:15:39 PMI did get a chuckle...you know I respect and appreciate what you do!  We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. 

All good my man! 

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 02:03:27 PMTim,
Can I ask you a few questions, which I hope will better articulate my point?

1. Do yo believe the Giants have an extensive marketing department?
2. Do you believe the Giants conducted research pertaining to the players the fanbase was most excited about, which coupled with thier internal data (e.g. jersey sales, media request, etc) allowed them to glean who thier most marketable players are?
3. If you believe 2 occurred, isn't it logical to place the players that polled/rated the highest on the marquee?

Also, to Ed's point, the Giants would look foolish to promote DJ, only to go in a different direction early in the season. 

From my perspective, I just have a hard time believing a multi-billion dollar organization randomly chose three players to promote without doing extensive research.   

     

Just felt like messing with you!     

1) Yes
2) Not sure
3) If #2 were true, I have a hard time believing fans are looking forward to seeing WDR than they are Nabers. In terms of popularity, as polarizing as Jones is, I think he has enough of a following that will easily eclipse the WanDale Robinson fan club.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 02:03:27 PMTim,
Can I ask you a few questions, which I hope will better articulate my point?

1. Do yo believe the Giants have an extensive marketing department?
2. Do you believe the Giants conducted research pertaining to the players the fanbase was most excited about, which coupled with thier internal data (e.g. jersey sales, media request, etc) allowed them to glean who thier most marketable players are?
3. If you believe 2 occurred, isn't it logical to place the players that polled/rated the highest on the marquee?

Also, to Ed's point, the Giants would look foolish to promote DJ, only to go in a different direction early in the season. 

From my perspective, I just have a hard time believing a multi-billion dollar organization randomly chose three players to promote without doing extensive research.   

No.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 15, 2024, 02:06:36 PMWell, that same marketing department thought it was a good idea to give fans a soda for fan appreciation day, so there's that.

    

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 01:59:15 PMThey don't know who the starting QB will be.

That's a *little* more plausibe. Little.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 01:34:21 PMI hear you, Tim, but the data simply doesn't support your sentiments; 6 of the top 10 most valuable franchise have stunk for 3 or more years...5 of the 6 have stunk for more than a decade; The Bill, Lions and Bengals are #30, 31 and 32. It's fairly clear winning has absolutely nothing to do with profitability. Concerning the PSL, the Giants could care less who buys thier tickets.  The NFL ticket exchange ensures they get a cut of ticket sales from all third party vendors. So, while some fans elected to forgo thier PSL(s), other fans have stepped in to purchase them, if solely for the purpose of reselling thier tickets via said exchange to make a profit.   

More to the point, the Giants marketing department does not care about throwing players a bone or winning games; their job is to sell tickets.  It really is that simple, my friend. I believe some fans conflate the entertainment side of the business with football operations; they're two separate things...

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Sorry, still don't buy that this flyer without Jones will generate more revenue, since you say that's the bottom line, than it would with him.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 01:11:15 PMTim,

The Giants are in the entertainment sector; their job is to generate buzz for the sole purpose of selling tickets and/or merchandise.  I'm not entirely sure what rewarding players via a spot on a flyer has to do with those efforts. The Giants are a multi-billion dollar privately owned business, with an extensive marketing department.  I'm sure thier research discovered fans are excited about WDR protentional; thus, they chose to promote him over more well established players. Fundamentally, a football organization #1 goal is to generate profit, vice winning games.  The flyer is concerned with the former and not the latter.

I get your point. I just don't agree with it.

Winning is the ultimate goal. You win, people want to see/pay for your product.

We have several members here who gave up their PSLs and tickets because of the piss-poor product that has been trotted out over that past 10+ years.

Despite the efforts to replace Jones, it would behoove the organization to have this kid's head on straight and his ego intact. Throw him a bone and show that the entire organization is behind him and he is the face of this franchise, at least for this season.

And, if not Jones, on the flyer, at least put the #1 pick up there. There's more hope about what lift he can provide the offense than what WDR can. Just sayin'.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 12:29:50 PMTo be fair, DJ is just not marquee player.  The Giants are in the entertainment business and need to promote players that will actually sell tickets and/or merchandise.

I like WDR and hope he has his breakout season. But... what has he done to this point to warrant being on the flyer?

The Giants will go as far as Jones takes them. FWIW, IMHO, he should have been on there.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AMIt's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.

Blame the person who created the flyer and blame the person who approved it.

Haters gonna hate hate hate...

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 12, 2024, 09:33:44 AMI wouldn't think you would consider this a Daniel Jones issue because Bellinger shined with DJ as QB in 2022.  That was until he sustained a serious eye injury.  Bellinger never was the same when he returned from that injury in 2022 and didn't regain his rookie magic in 2023

I wonder if the damage was mental as well as physical. Could he be playing scared?