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Title: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MightyGiants on November 05, 2023, 03:01:50 PM
Please post game comments here
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Topshelf21 on November 05, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
No injuries, please!

Unleash Hyatt pretty please!
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: H-Town G-Fan on November 05, 2023, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: Topshelf21 on November 05, 2023, 03:05:32 PMNo injuries, please!

Unleash Hyatt pretty please!

Sorry, best we can do is wide receiver screens to Parris Campbell.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: Topshelf21 on November 05, 2023, 03:05:32 PMNo injuries, please!

Unleash Hyatt pretty please!

It might happen if he's the first read
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 04:00:34 PM
Supposedly on the local Fox channel instead of Cowboys/Eagles. Here's hoping the channel guide is correct; originally the local feed was Philly/Dallas.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: SlotCorner on November 05, 2023, 04:18:52 PM
I expect this to go just like the Browns Cards game. Raiders aren't going to score, so Giants win because they have the ball  a lot. Kinda the reason Seattle beat us.

20-3 Giants.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:23:44 PM
And an NFL star is born.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:27:03 PM
What on earth was that first throw?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:27:26 PM
Jone's first throw is air-mailed on a short dump-off ball. He better get it together here.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 04:28:14 PM
Settle down Jones.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:28:34 PM
Throw it short of the market on third per usual.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 04:28:55 PM
Hyatt was open, all Jones had to do was throw it. Jones is trash
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:29:12 PM
Jones does not look good early. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 04:29:44 PM
Awful start.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:30:05 PM
Evan Neal is the worst.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
I got to say, Daboll berating the players is not a good look and not effective.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:31:34 PM
I guess we're a "get right" opportunity for Jacobs. He has been nowhere all year.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:31:41 PM
And your QB has been out for weeks and you're paying your RB $10M, so makes sense to ignore him.

Absolutely horrible play calling by Kafka is the reason for that 3 and out.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:31:56 PM
It was earned on that false start
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:30:44 PMI got to say, Daboll berating the players is not a good look and not effective.

I missed that. Whom was he berating?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:32:19 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:30:44 PMI got to say, Daboll berating the players is not a good look and not effective.

Neal absolutely deserved it. He's a bum and should know it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:31:41 PMAnd your QB has been out for weeks and you're paying your RB $10M, so makes sense to ignore him.

Absolutely horrible play calling by Kafka is the reason for that 3 and out.

Except Jones had a wide open Hyatt and missed him.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 04:33:10 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:31:41 PMAnd your QB has been out for weeks and you're paying your RB $10M, so makes sense to ignore him.

Absolutely horrible play calling by Kafka is the reason for that 3 and out.
Na, jones at QB is why the Giants went 3 and out. Missed Barkley, then didn't throw to Hyatt on 2nd down, the. Threw short on 3rd. Jones smh
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:31:41 PMAnd your QB has been out for weeks and you're paying your RB $10M, so makes sense to ignore him.

Absolutely horrible play calling by Kafka is the reason for that 3 and out.

He had Saquon wide open on first down and airmailed it. Not everything is about playcalling.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:32:05 PMI missed that. Whom was he berating?
Neal for the movement. It might have been deserved but won't solve the problem. Daboll ain't Lombardi.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:32:05 PMI missed that. Whom was he berating?

Neal. Shouted something like "what the f**k was that?"
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:34:18 PM
Has the game started yet ?


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 04:33:10 PMNa, jones at QB is why the Giants went 3 and out. Missed Barkley, then didn't throw to Hyatt on 2nd down, the. Threw short on 3rd. Jones smh

Yeah, blaming the OC for that drive is odd; if he hits Barkley on an easy pass, it's 2 and 3. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:34:50 PM
Defense looking good


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:35:26 PM
These have started like a team that's delightedtheir HC has been fired.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 04:35:46 PM
Hey we're losing! Color me shocked.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:36:10 PM
You guys are unbelievable......Giants d looks like crap and all some of can do is crap on Jones


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 04:36:28 PM
What a terrible start. Just plain awful. Almost wish we did get Cowboys/Eagles instead.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:37:40 PM
Drafting the right QB can completely transform the franchise.  Did anyone see the Hou vs TB game?  CJ Stroud is the real deal and completely transformed the team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:37:57 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:36:10 PMYou guys are unbelievable......Giants d looks like crap and all some of can do is crap on Jones


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The whole team looks terrible. Including him. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:38:33 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:34:24 PMYeah, blaming the OC for that drive is odd; if he hits Barkley on an easy pass, it's 2 and 3.

It's not rocket science. Your QB has missed several games and you allegedly have one of the best RBs in the league.

Seems like you'd go to him early rather than ignore him.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:36:10 PMYou guys are unbelievable......Giants d looks like crap and all some of can do is crap on Jones


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Jones was terrible that first possession. Come on man
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 04:39:03 PM
Hyatt wide open again. Jones doesn't throw it
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:39:20 PM
Why are we not running the ball
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 04:38:33 PMIt's not rocket science. Your QB has missed several games and you allegedly have one of the best RBs in the league.

Seems like you'd go to him early rather than ignore him.

Or you give him an easy throw to get into a rhythm. He missed the easy throw.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:36:10 PMYou guys are unbelievable......Giants d looks like crap and all some of can do is crap on Jones


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Yeah, cause offense looked amazing...
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:40:38 PM
God Jones is just painful to watch.

So bad.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:40:59 PM
WTF was that?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:41:12 PM
Damn Barkley should've had a first down and more there
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:42:35 PM
Damn
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:41:12 PMDamn Barkley should've had a first down and more there

Really feels like he doesn't have that extra gear anymore
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:43:13 PM
Wtf.  Hyatt was wide open and Jones throws him out of bounce.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:43:37 PM
Just feed it to Barkley.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:43:57 PM
Man alive.
Let's be charitable.....Jones looks.......rusty.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:43:13 PMWtf.  Hyatt was wide open and Jones throws him out of bounce.

One of those hole shots where you just need to fire it in there. Put waaaaay too much air under it
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 04:44:52 PM
Quote from: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 04:42:41 PMReally feels like he doesn't have that extra gear anymore

He had 36 carries last week. That's a brutal amount of carries to now be on the road.

There's a stat IIRC that says any RB that gets 40 in a game literally is never the same again.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:43:37 PMJust feed it to Barkley.

$40m/yr QB and we have no faith for him to throw the ball.  TT makes that throw to Hyatt. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:45:17 PM
No clue if we got that
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:45:34 PM
Bs spot
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:45:58 PM
Nope....
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:46:06 PM
That right there could be the game killer
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:46:55 PM
1 for 5 for a total 9 yards so far and extremely lucky he doesn't have a pick.

He needs to get it together or come out of the game.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 04:47:15 PM
Why are we the only team that can't convert a Tush Push???
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:47:32 PM
Great start......
Jaysus, we had to take the air out early,  we've let them light a fire.
It already feels like a long way back.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: nb587 on November 05, 2023, 04:48:21 PM
Can someone explain why on the push tush, they have little guys pushing Jones instead of big strong OL?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
This is going well. What a mess. :boooo:
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:48:44 PM
TT was no world beater,  but at least he showed confidence. There was more spark. It's painful and to be honest, not enjoyable watching Jones.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Topshelf21 on November 05, 2023, 04:49:21 PM
There was no effort whatsoever on the tush push go for it on 4th down....

Lackluster effort all around there.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:49:33 PM
McKinney can't tackle. Even easy tackles.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:50:12 PM
Really bad spot on fourth down play


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:50:41 PM
Is pinnock out ? I see Belton more than usual
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:50:55 PM
Okereke......warrior!
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
Giants just need to stop the run. Raider ,QB is not looking good.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:51:31 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 04:50:12 PMReally bad spot on fourth down play


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It did look like it from the overhead.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 04:52:30 PM
Right, let's run the Tommy D O for a series
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:53:25 PM
Jones need to settle down and come up with a decent series here. This is not a good defense he's up against.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:53:25 PMJones need to settle down and come up with a decent series here. This is not a good defense he's up against.

There's absolutely no way we should be under 200 yards passing today. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:54:44 PM
Why doesn't Barkley just cut inside and force a few more yards
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:55:58 PM
Come on!!  Hyatt had a step. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:56:11 PM
Damn the one game Jones is letting it loose, overthrew .... At least he's trying... hopefully one connects
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 04:56:28 PM
You have to be more accurate than that. Wasn't even close. Hyatt had a step too.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 04:57:10 PM
Neal should be sighted for squatting. He just a turnstile.  :boooo:
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 04:57:39 PM
Hopefully the deep ball connects.

It's looked awful so far.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 04:47:15 PMWhy are we the only team that can't convert a Tush Push???

The Eagles use two offensive linemen plus a big back. The Giants had tight ends Bellinger and Cager plus tiny RB Matt Breida. On that play, Bellinger was the only Giant who pushed anybody.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:58:43 PM
Keep running with Barkley , the. Keep trying Hyatt deep ..it'll connect eventually
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 04:59:38 PM
That is gonna kill the drive for sure
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 04:57:57 PMThe Eagles use two offensive linemen plus a big back. The Giants had tight ends Bellinger and Cager plus tiny RB Matt Breida. On that play, Bellinger was the only Giant who pushed anybody.

Eagles also have the NFLs best center and a QB who can literally squat 600 LBs.  The Giants have a small center.   
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 05:00:05 PM
DJ tripped by Cager, who is absolutely useless.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:00:48 PM
Yet another pointless quarter.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 05, 2023, 05:01:53 PM
Neal like a turnstile out there. He will NEVER be a successful NFL tackle. At this point, I wouldn't even try him at OG. Just move on. He's a bust.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
This is going to be a long game.
It gers waring watching two bald men fighting over a comb every week.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:02:37 PM
Dj is done

I think the last play he was hurt
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:03:03 PM
Nobody gets as flat as Kelce on the push. He's a beast that can't be imitated in short yardage.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:03:23 PM
Matt Barkley? Or Tommy D?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:03:35 PM
Oh god.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 05:03:44 PM
DeVito is in.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:03:52 PM
Tommy D it is
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:04:09 PM
Damn season is now officially over

And whether we love or hate dj his time is probably done
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 05:04:38 PM
Danny, we hardly knew ye.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:04:55 PM
I hope you let devito throw the fken ball today
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 05:05:00 PM
Devito now has as many career completions as he has rushing touchdowns
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Blue Since '62 on November 05, 2023, 05:04:38 PMDanny, we hardly knew ye.

Cold
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
Jaysus.....
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 05:05:58 PM
If I knew Jones was hurt on that sack how did the Giants coaching staff not know and put him back out there smh. I'm in section 415, nosebleed seats and I'm seeing everything. jones is bad
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
His career should be considered regrettable. Retirement is probably an option. Sad. :(
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:07:24 PM
ACL?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
Great tackle by Thibs
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 05:05:58 PMIf I knew Jones was hurt on that sack how did the Giants coaching staff not know and put him back out there smh. I'm in section 415, nosebleed seats and I'm seeing everything. jones is bad

If you knew. Jones would have known and it's not a smart move to stay in the game.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:07:08 PMHis career should be considered regrettable. Retirement is probably an option. Sad. :(

What's even more sad is we're on the hook for $47mm for him next year. So while I'm sorry he is hurt, he will get better, and either way he will still be a pretty well off man with that $81m guarantee no matter what he does. The Giants lose out more than he does.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 05:10:10 PM
Great individual plays by KT, Pinnock and Sexy Dexy to kill that drive
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:09 PMIf you knew. Jones would have known and it's not a smart move to stay in the game.

I don't think the two are related; the knee buckling looked like a traditional non-contact injury.  For DJ sake, I hope it's not an ACL/MCL.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:30 PMWhat's even more sad is we're on the hook for $47mm for him next year. So while I'm sorry he is hurt, he will get better, and either way he will still be a pretty well off man with that $81m guarantee no matter what he does. The Giants lose out more than he does.

Yeah, Schoen's plan for Jones to play 2 years and then cut him with no cap impact blows up if this is an ACL or some other career-altering injury.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:12:20 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:30 PMWhat's even more sad is we're on the hook for $47mm for him next year. So while I'm sorry he is hurt, he will get better, and either way he will still be a pretty well off man with that $81m guarantee no matter what he does. The Giants lose out more than he does.
How does that work against the cap if he retires?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:12:28 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 05:10:47 PMI don't think the two are related; the knee buckling looked like a traditional non-contact injury.  For DJ sake, I hope it's not an ACL/MCL.

It looked like he twisted it on the previous play.

With that said it could easily be one of the two above injuries. Jones is very tough when it comes to pain. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to stay out there not realizing it was a tear. Hopefully it's just a really bad sprain.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:13:00 PM
He's walking off the field on his own. Doesn't mean it's not serious but usually on tears they have the cart out.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:13:54 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:09:30 PMWhat's even more sad is we're on the hook for $47mm for him next year. So while I'm sorry he is hurt, he will get better, and either way he will still be a pretty well off man with that $81m guarantee no matter what he does. The Giants lose out more than he does.
It pretty much a done deal that the Giants have to find a QB in the off season.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 05:14:04 PM
I am NOT beating up on anybody or being a wiseass, but many here talked up DeVito here during the preseason and at the final cutdowns. Now we have a chance to see whether he's got anything. At all.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:14:10 PM
That side judge is not spotting the ball good.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:14:20 PM
Jaysus Crosby's parents were definitely first cousins at best.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Section 101 Steve on November 05, 2023, 05:17:56 PM
The way he went down on that one replay from the back looked like he couldn't pivot and unfortunately that is usually an acl. You can walk on it just can't pivot. Season just went from bad to disaster
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:20:25 PM
Nonhold on Adams there?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Jclayton92 on November 05, 2023, 05:21:14 PM
Tommy can't be any worse at this point than what we've had.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:13:00 PMHe's walking off the field on his own. Doesn't mean it's not serious but usually on tears they have the cart out.

That's not entirely true... it's quite often someone walks off on their own with a limp after an acl tear
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:22:33 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 05, 2023, 05:21:14 PMTommy can't be any worse at this point than what we've had.
He's got to throw the ball.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:22:41 PM
If Jones is done.   Without Taylor , Giants will have to sign a veteran QB just to be somewhat competitive


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 05, 2023, 05:21:14 PMTommy can't be any worse at this point than what we've had.

Was clearly over before the Jones injury.

The folks who care a lot about whether we finish 6-11 or 4-13 were dealt a blow today though.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:22:41 PMIf Jones is done.   Without Taylor , Giants will have to sign a veteran QB just to be somewhat competitive


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Sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:24:06 PM
Is there any kind of injury clause or an out for DJ being hurt ? Doubt it
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:22:41 PMIf Jones is done.  Without Taylor , Giants will have to sign a veteran QB just to be somewhat competitive


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In all honesty,  that ship has sailed for this season.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:25:02 PM
WTF has happened to our D?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:25:19 PM
I don't understand wink this season

He randomly picks games to play soft zone defense

He has proven already his aggressive defense is more effective ... the soft sh** is like slowly belling out
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:12:20 PMHow does that work against the cap if he retires?

What's left of the bonus accelerates and counts 100% into the next season.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 05:25:54 PM
That's game.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:26:01 PM
Raiders doing whatever they want and they aren't even using Adams.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:26:06 PM
https://twitter.com/ProFootballDoc/status/1721291976354754868
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:24:15 PMIn all honesty,  that ship has sailed for this season.
I know,  they just can't lay down for remainder of season. Defense will all quit


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:26:37 PM
Is it the loss of Wiliams?
This is horrible,  these are having their way here.
This one is pretty close to being in the books.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: Blue Since '62 on November 05, 2023, 05:25:54 PMThat's game.
What? DeVito can't bring them back?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:26:41 PMWhat? DeVito can't bring them back?
Hope he does but haven't seen anything from him so far to be encouraged


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:28:48 PM
If they lose this one this team will be 5-13-1 over the last 19 games.  Just more of the same slop from an organization that has long lost its way.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:29:24 PM
Still some very bad teams on the Giants schedule.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:26:41 PMWhat? DeVito can't bring them back?

Haha. That and a double slice of Brooklyn pizza..capeche.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:30:57 PM
I thought last weeks loss was a low point......but this could be worse


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
With Jones out, LV's D will key on Barkley. Yards will be harder to come by.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:29:24 PMStill some very bad teams on the Giants schedule.

The Giants are the bad team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
 Nice throw.  He is much better than Jones.   That why they don't want him to throw the ball


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 05:32:33 PM
One thing this game has shown me is that once the Giants get a QB, Hyatt will have lots of deep TDs/passes
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:29:24 PMStill some very bad teams on the Giants schedule.
Yes they will need a win also


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:33:30 PM
Devito went for it which I'm happy about at least

One common denominator of all deep throws by any of the qbs is it's always to Hyatt ... we need to get a qb to get him that ball
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 05:35:07 PM
Patti Traina reporting a possible season-ending ACL tear for Jones.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:29:24 PMStill some very bad teams on the Giants schedule.

Your watching a dead fish.

No confidence they can even beat the Pats.No Cards in the division anymore. The Rams?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:35:19 PM
Giants d giving up


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:36:33 PM
Banks starting to play like a Giant now


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 05:36:58 PM
They've quit already.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:33:30 PMDevito went for it which I'm happy about at least

One common denominator of all deep throws by any of the qbs is it's always to Hyatt ... we need to get a qb to get him that ball
According to announcer he missed the wide open Slayton underneath for about 20 yards.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:37:59 PMAccording to announcer he missed the wide open Slayton underneath for about 20 yards.


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I'm watching the game in a completely different language so I have no idea what's being said lol

May be the case I'm just saying Hyatt is a deep threat
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:40:03 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:35:19 PMGiants d giving up


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I know how they feel.
These Raiders are dog sh1t, yet they're taking us out to the barn with a 12 bore.
I dunno where we go from here, I expected a drop off in standinfs/results, but simultaneously I thought we'd see some ongoing construction/development.
I didn't expect the wheels to come off like this.
I just feel sick.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:32:18 PMNice throw.  He is much better than Jones.  That why they don't want him to throw the ball


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Much of this is on Schoen and Daboll for lack of preparation. Don't they know Mike Glennon looks like Mahomes next to DeVito?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:42:06 PM
It all starts with what once again is looking like the wrong hire as head coach.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:42:47 PM
Wow this is bad

That's on Slayton
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:42:06 PMIt all starts with what once again looking like the wrong hire as head coach.

I feel like I'm looking at Joe Judge out there on the sideline. Martindale? Pat Graham's defense is beating the tar out of this team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:43:33 PM
Devito looking good much better than Jones


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:43:57 PM
Absolute embarrassment.  They will be down 28-0 to the friggin Raiders.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:42:06 PMIt all starts with what once again is looking like the wrong hire as head coach.
It all starts at the top. They have a bad owner.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:44:26 PM
Don't think coaching at this point......just bad players


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:43:33 PMDevito looking good much better than Jones


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Was anybody out here saying Devito is better than Jones? I think most people expected him to not look great.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: y_so_blu on November 05, 2023, 05:45:04 PM
Blow up the team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:45:17 PM
This is a sacking job, this is unsurviveable irrespective of injuries.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
Their first year success bred hubris with Daboll and Schoen. DeVito is a good example of them not having contingency plans. :what:
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:43:33 PMDevito looking good much better than Jones


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We are watching different games then. DeVito has no business in the NFL.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:45:51 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:44:26 PMDon't think coaching at this point......just bad players


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We can look at the players but Daboll looks as lost as anyone.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: jgrangers2 on November 05, 2023, 05:44:54 PMWas anybody out here saying Devito is better than Jones? I think most people expected him to not look great.
I am bing scarastic, Jones haters think anybody better than Jones


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 05:45:35 PMTheir first year success bred hubris with Daboll and Schoen. DeVito is a good example of them not having contingency plans. :what:
Exactly.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 05:45:40 PMWe are watching different games then. DeVito has no business in the NFL.

I think he's being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:47:33 PM
Quote from: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 05:45:51 PMWe can look at the players but Daboll looks as lost as anyone.
I don't think he can believe all the injuries and crap going on


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:47:33 PMI don't think he can believe all the injuries and crap going on


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He bears some responsibility. Everyone does. Top to bottom.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Giant Obsession on November 05, 2023, 05:49:48 PM
Every time, at least 6, that I mentioned we need upgrade from Slayton posters come out of the woodwork extolling his virtues as a WR.

Boys and girls, sorry, if Slayton is on your roster you are devoid of new talent or else CAN NOT correctly judge talent level.  You telling me Slayton is better than Sills ???
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: killarich on November 05, 2023, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: Giant Obsession on November 05, 2023, 05:49:48 PMEvery time, at least 6, that I mentioned we need upgrade from Slayton posters come out of the woodwork extolling his virtues as a WR.

Boys and girls, sorry, if Slayton is on your roster you are devoid of new talent or else CAN NOT correctly judge talent level.  You telling me Slayton is better than Sills ???

Slayton along with Hodgins are two of my biggest disappointments
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:48:49 PMHe bears some responsibility. Everyone does. Top to bottom.
Agreed but injuries to line...running back, QB etc . With a very much average team to start with makes it very difficult to put a competitive team on the field


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 05:53:37 PM
Daboll, Schoen and Jones are the reason this team stinks


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:46:17 PMI am bing scarastic, Jones haters think anybody better than Jones


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Yawn..
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:56:16 PM
We just look like a broken ball club, how in the f-k do we fix this?
We can't carry on cleaning house, we can't carry on going up blind alleys.
Are we going to stink enough to get Williams?

Jeez, I'm hurting here.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:53:29 PMAgreed but injuries to line...running back, QB etc . With a very much average team to start with makes it very difficult to put a competitive team on the field


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The NFL is a league of the injured. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 05:56:16 PMWe just look like a broken ball club, how in the f-k do we fix this?
We can't carry on cleaning house, we can't carry on going up blind alleys.
Are we going to stink enough to get Williams?

Jeez, I'm hurting here.
Fly a plane around MetLife. The owner is the constant.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: madbadger on November 05, 2023, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 05:46:17 PMI am bing scarastic, Jones haters think anybody better than Jones


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I am far from a Jones hater but he stinks. Always has. He got a stupid extension after a year that would have been considered very disappointing to any top quarterback. Five years into his career and he has thrown more than 15 touchdowns in a season once. Not all of that is his fault but he is what he is.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 06:03:02 PM
The Jones deal has simply set this franchise back years.

The giants and a lot of fans, not all but a lot got drunk on a stripped back game plan, a favourable schedule and middling production. To that end, the Giants guaranteed 40mil a year to a guy that cant stay on the field and when he is on the field, he cannot consistently produce. They could have bridged a QB and built up in other areas of need (which is almost everywhere).

It's an awful deal, with an awful outcome. There's no other way to slice it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 05, 2023, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 05:59:26 PMFly a plane around MetLife. The owner is the constant.

Unfortunately, George Young isn't walking through the door.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 06:06:08 PM
Mara refused to trade Barkley and wanted Jones to succeed. Neither took place. Time to come to terms with reality..Most qbs dont work out on average. We're stuck with DJ next year but it's TIME to turn the page..now.

Either draft one in 24 or 25..and find the future qb.Jones is broken. Done.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Giant Jim on November 05, 2023, 06:07:40 PM
This team was totally unprepared for this game, the defense too. I don't know what happened from last year, but there were many coaching decisions I felt were poor in previous games I was willing to look past, but the play of the entire team so far is inexcusable. People want to get great draft position for a QB, how did the inept Raiders get this guy? Or is the D playing that bad?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:14:49 PM
Defense done as well total team collapse.    Didn't see it coming ...but nothing surprises me with the Giants.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: Giant Jim on November 05, 2023, 06:07:40 PMThis team was totally unprepared for this game, the defense too. I don't know what happened from last year, but there were many coaching decisions I felt were poor in previous games I was willing to look past, but the play of the entire team so far is inexcusable. People want to get great draft position for a QB, hod did the inept Raiders get this guy? Or is the D playing that bad?
We've looked ill prepared all season, I've no clue what's gone on, OK we had a soft schedule and breaks injuries last season but we looked well coached and ready, this season......
Today is a new low.
A terrible team is just abusing us.
A terrible team with inexperienced coaches all over, taking us to school.
This is ugly
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Messiah717 on November 05, 2023, 06:17:30 PM
I really don't know where you go from here.  From top to bottom they need to be rebuilt.  Wake me in 2030 when maybe they will be competitive.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:14:49 PMDefense done as well total team collapse.    Didn't see it coming ...but nothing surprises me with the Giants.


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Has Williams being traded sent a message?
Or just left that big of a hole?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 06:19:22 PM
Simple, if Jones hits those early throws to Barkley and Hyatt the game is completely different. Coaching/play calling can't change the fact Jones just missed the plays that presented themselves.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Ed Vette on November 05, 2023, 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 06:03:02 PMThe Jones deal has simply set this franchise back years.

The giants and a lot of fans, not all but a lot got drunk on a stripped back game plan, a favourable schedule and middling production. To that end, the Giants guaranteed 40mil a year to a guy that cant stay on the field and when he is on the field, he cannot consistently produce. They could have bridged a QB and built up in other areas of need (which is almost everywhere).

It's an awful deal, with an awful outcome. There's no other way to slice it.
Quarterback Hell. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:21:27 PM
I'm not going to lie, I'm in a little bit of shock.

I never imagined the defense letting down like this.

I may be done fore the year.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:22:40 PM
Is it me or is DeVito afraid to throw the ball?


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:23:40 PM
This guy being in game is embarrassing


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:23:51 PM
Pierce making a nice initial bid to keep the job. Obviously he'll need to do more than beat on our sorry asses though.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:21:27 PMI'm not going to lie, I'm in a little bit of shock.

I never imagined the defense letting down like this.

I may be done fore the year.


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Never be done.
Not for a season, barely for a week.
Odd weeks I'll switch to Redzone, odd weeks I'll go to bed, but this is for better or for worse long-term.
That's why this hurts so bad
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 06:25:24 PM
Since the Giants are toast I am focusing on other things like why is the sideline reporter wearing a Wonder Woman shirt? That's kind of unprofessional.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Ed Vette on November 05, 2023, 06:25:27 PM
Gillan getting workout.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 06:26:39 PM
McFadden playing his ass off.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:29:29 PM
What is it with Thibs and holds not getting called? Rife every week
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:32:38 PM
Meanwhile Davin Tomlinson had 2.5 sacks for the Browns.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:32:43 PM
Best throw of the day by a Giant QB.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 06:34:01 PM
DeVito knows how to slide. Unlike Jones.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:36:14 PM
Good thing we hung on to Adoree and Barkley. They should be able to help us ideally finish 5-12 instead of 3-13, even if they're not Giants next year.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:36:14 PMGood thing we hung on to Adoree and Barkley. They should be able to help us ideally finish 5-12 instead of 3-13, even if they're not Giants next year.

If the Giants were smart, they would let Devita start every game and finish the season 2-15 and position themselves for a QB; if we get lucky, we draft our CJ, who almost put up 500 passing yards with less offensive talent than we have. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:40:53 PM
So next week we head into Dallas.

That'll be fun.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:40:53 PMSo next week we head into Dallas.

That'll be fun.

Yeah, I'm flying 8000 miles do watch that game.  Sigh...
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 06:42:28 PM
Nice play, Tommy.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:42:42 PM
DeVito's picks were obviously bad, but he's averaging 10.0 YPA right now FWIW (80 yards on 8 attempts).

Dimes went for 25 yards on 9 attempts.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 06:42:59 PM
Robinson could have ordered takeout with all the time he was wide open in the endzone
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 05, 2023, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:42:42 PMDeVito's picks were obviously bad, but he's averaging 10.0 YPA right now FWIW (80 yards on 8 attempts).

Dimes went for 25 yards on 9 attempts.

They are probably playing harder for him.  /sarcasm/
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 06:42:59 PMRobinson could have ordered takeout with all the time he was wide open in the endzone

Giants WRs have been open all game. giants QBs just can't get them the ball
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 06:44:00 PM
Great trick :doh:  play Kafka  :doh:  :doh:
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
WTF was that 2 try all about?
Holy sh1t
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:44:43 PM
Why does Daboll constantly rip pages from the Eagles playbook?

We don't have their personnel Brian!


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 06:44:00 PMGiants WRs have been open all game. giants QBs just can't get them the ball
Hell, once Tommy gets a week taking 1 reps, it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: weeze on November 05, 2023, 06:45:20 PM
take THAT!
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: umassgrad on November 05, 2023, 06:45:25 PM
just scored but felt uncomfortable feeling success so went into emarassment mode ASAP, mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 05, 2023, 06:46:21 PM
Touchdown Tommy!  /sarcasm/
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:52:01 PM
Good by by Devito.    Would like to have an extra point kick to see if the new guy can do it.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:53:15 PM
Giants love running on 2nd and long.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:54:13 PM
Just frigan throw it what is there to lose


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 06:54:25 PM
Robinson wide open on 3rd down. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 06:54:42 PM
 Nice catch


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 06:55:30 PM
An NFL receiver needs to hold on to that ball there. He had time to secure it. He was too worried about the hit that he knew was coming.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:56:16 PM
Hodgins was shocked the ball was coming his way. Then get blown up and dropped it.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 06:56:54 PM
Not that it would matter, but I thought we'd might win the second half. Doesn't look like that will happen.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: AYM on November 05, 2023, 06:57:34 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 06:56:54 PMNot that it would matter, but I thought we'd might win the second half. Doesn't look like that will happen.

At this rate we'll score below our season average.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 05, 2023, 06:57:41 PM
When the Raiders are CLOWNING you for 3 hours, you've officially hit rock bottom.

What could Daboll possibly have to say in this press conference.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 07:00:21 PM
That was grounding?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 07:00:27 PM
Another nice game by McFadden. One down, 21 to go.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 07:03:57 PM
No prognosis on Jones? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 07:04:05 PM
Evan Neal, Jaysus man a bit of pride.
You look soft as a baby's first sh1te.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 07:04:20 PM
Neal down
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 05, 2023, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 07:00:27 PMAnother nice game by McFadden. One down, 21 to go.

The giants have some nice young players; if they can find a QB who can actually throw for more than 250 yards a game, a lot will change. 
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 07:03:57 PMNo prognosis on Jones? Did I miss something?

Will be tomorrow.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 05, 2023, 07:05:06 PM
Now he's injured, get him to fu ck.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: katkavage on November 05, 2023, 07:03:57 PMNo prognosis on Jones? Did I miss something?

Patti Traina is reporting a possible ACL tear.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:05:25 PM
Giants should trade #1 pick every year for a very good player and a couple of seconds... first rounders never play...


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 07:05:43 PM
DeVito is doing a nice job now. Nice accurate strikes downfield. Has had a number of them.
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:16:27 PM
Giants on pace to set a record for most sacks given up


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 05, 2023, 07:17:20 PM
A LOT of the sacks given up by the Giants are scheme sacks. Scheme issue by the offensive coaching staff.
Title: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:18:11 PM
Are Giant receivers just not  open or do all Giant QBs scared to throw the ball


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:18:40 PM
Open


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:19:58 PM
Starting to look more like offensive scheme/ Plays than players ability to get open.


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:21:17 PM
There are no Terri Hills or Kelsey's on this team


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Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 05, 2023, 07:18:11 PMAre Giant receivers just not  open or do all Giant QBs scared to throw the ball


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WRs are open. QBs are trash
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: MightyGiants on November 05, 2023, 07:26:08 PM
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1721321730826735898?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: Dgoodmantrublu on November 05, 2023, 07:30:37 PM
Hyatt could have caught 4 TDs today or close to it if the Giants QBs are weren't horrible.

Quote from: sooners56 on November 05, 2023, 07:22:20 PMWRs are open. QBs are trash
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 09:25:50 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeFrancesa/status/1721307819725467957
Title: Re: Giants vs Raiders game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 05, 2023, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 05, 2023, 09:25:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/MikeFrancesa/status/1721307819725467957

Pretty much spot on but shockingly look worse on offense than with Glennon/Fromm the final half of 2021.