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#1
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 18, 2024, 09:41:16 PMThey should go back to Albany. If I owned the team, I would close practice to the public and the Media except for one practice in the stadium.

The big problem with Albany is the lack of an indoor field, they can't afford to have their limited practices impacted by weather.  Plus the NFL teams now have very sophisticated computer systems and networks that are not easily replicated on the road.
#2
As a Giants fan, I know as much about Jones as anyone outside of 1925 Giants way.  That said, I have no idea how Jones will perform this season.  Between his struggles last season and the ACL recovery there are too many unknowns.  So I have reached the conclusion that trying to rank him at this point, is a meaningless exercise.  Hell, I am not even certain he will be the starting quarterback for all or even part of the season.
#3
That is Banks who he is with

#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Reports from OTA 1
May 21, 2024, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 21, 2024, 08:07:44 PMOtAs day 2 and I saw Ezeudu was taking snaps at LT and LG and it made me cringe.  I have wanted them to just let the kid learn LG for a full offseason.

 I think @Ed Vette has also been a huge advocate of letting the kid play LG for an entire offseason to see what we actually have and they just wont.

It seems Daboll and the new O-line coach are big fans of versatility, but I (and others) agree with Ed that getting players good at one spot and coordinated is more important.
#6
Quote from: PSUBeirut on May 21, 2024, 07:12:43 PMI think there's also a good number of folks in the fanbase that are still stung by Barkley essentially being right all along about his worth on the market and pretty much everyone else being wrong.  Even the bitcoin thing he took so much slack for looks to have bounced back in a huge way (if he even stuck with it...who knows). 

And Rich- I have an awful feeling that the hype train is not going to be the only thing to worry about when Barkley comes to town.  My gut having watched him for many years is that he's going to want to ring it up against us because of all the silly fan vitriol that's been spewed his way (and I think the Eagles staff, being the a-holes they are, will absolutely work to accommodate this happening).  So, that's definitely my bigger worry when he comes back to town. 

As for me- no surprises here, I'm hoping he finally gets a creative OC and a solid OL to run behind- and, even if diminished by injury, gets back to that upper echelon of RB that he's worked so hard to be.  Just not against us.

I don't think anyone was right or wrong about the RB market.  Part of the free agent value is tied to the positional strength of the draft, especially for a position like RB.  Last year there was a bumper crop of high end RBs to draft.  This year, not so much.
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is Malik Nabers Qb Proof?
May 21, 2024, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on May 21, 2024, 10:24:06 AMHe's not so special that if the OL only allows a very amount of time before a QB gets hit that he will be effective.  NFL CBs can tie him early for a split second to screw up any effectiveness.  It's about the OL. 

Joe, I agree.   The O-line play is more likely to be the limiting factor, than QB.   Even if Jones is ineffective upon his return, they have Lock.
#10
Quote from: T200 on May 21, 2024, 02:52:52 PMHe was a good Giant and I bear no ill-will towards him. If he succeeds elsewhere, even with a rival, I'm happy for him.

If we can post every failure of Toney's and he was barely here, I can only imagine what we're going to see every time Barkley comes up short.

I hear you.   I can only speak for myself, but I will not be celebrating if he struggles nor will I be upset if he succeeds.   There are some players I don't like, like Aaron Rodgers, who I like to see struggle and there are players I am happy to see them enjoying success, like Purdy.  Barkley just doesn't move the needle for me.   That said, I am dreading the Barkley hype train leasing up to the Giants VS Eagles games, as it just seems forced by the media.
#11
Quote from: T200 on May 21, 2024, 01:21:17 PMAnticipating all the Barkley threads from the "I don't care" contingent  :-??  :suspious:  :yes:

I am in the don't care camp, but I think you're correct.   I think their are two aspects to this.  There is Barkley the person and Barkley the asset.   As a person, his success or failure doesn't phase me because he is no longer on the team (for some reason, I never really warmed up to the guy, even though he carried himself well).   There is also Barkley the asset and his success and failure reflects on Joe Schoen and the decisions he made.  So I could see that aspect being discussed.
#12
I am of two mindsets on Miller.

1)  I like his measurables and his back story.

2)  I am mindful that between the college portal and general college scouting, if he had a natural talent, he would have been playing for a big program sooner than he did.  Admittedly, there is some uncertainty here, but you would think his backstory would have included turning down scholarship offers at some point.
#13
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 19, 2024, 12:38:42 PMLenn,

In a sense, we sort of have heard the police's side of the story. They released an official police report detailing their account of the incident, and they brought charges against Scheffler. To me that qualifies as their "side" of the story.

As far as people auto-assuming things that suit an agenda, I know where you're coming from there, and I try not to always auto-assume the worst about cops until I have enough information where I feel that view is firmly backed up by facts. What I would say though is Scheffler has a pretty pristine reputation and is universally considered a great guy, a family guy, a person of faith, etc. He is the last person anyone would consider a trouble maker. While none of that guarantees he did not step over the line in this incident, his reputation probably earns him the benefit of the doubt, which, quite frankly, everyone accused of a crime in this country is entitled to.

Jeff,

That was very well said  :ok:   A man spends a lifetime building/earning a reputation and that reputation should mean something in times like this. To assume this man is guilty is just plain wrong.