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Title: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: AYM on March 23, 2024, 09:03:58 AM
While Schoen and the Giants front office consider trading up, I hope they consider this fact. A +12 turnover ratio is hard to duplicate, meaning the team was actually a lot worse than the W/L record would indicate.
Title: Re: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: londonblue on March 23, 2024, 10:46:53 AM
It did not create a large favourable net points off turnovers margin (because our O sucked) so arguably it did not boost our record much. Our record was also hurt by a -50 sack differential, easily the worst in the league. How much? Make your own mind up.

I'd expect both the outlying turnover and sack differentials to normalise. Whether either change translates into a shift in our W-L record will depend on many other factors.
Title: Re: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: kartanoman on March 23, 2024, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: londonblue on March 23, 2024, 10:46:53 AMIt did not create a large favourable net points off turnovers margin (because our O sucked) so arguably it did not boost our record much. Our record was also hurt by a -50 sack differential, easily the worst in the league. How much? Make your own mind up.

I'd expect both the outlying turnover and sack differentials to normalise. Whether either change translates into a shift in our W-L record will depend on many other factors.

Plenty of oddities in the season and these were two of them. You can also remark on the unheard of statistic the Giants had four (4) placekickers during the season (NOTE: technically five (5) but Cade York never made it to the field and was injured in practice). Gano, Bullock, Scottish Hammer and Crosby make four. That beats Parcells' crazy kicker carousels in 1985 (Ali Haji-Skeikh, Jess Atkinson, Eric Shubert) and 1986 (Bob Thomas, Joe Cooper and finally Raul Allegre). We all know how the kicking game impacted the W-L column this year as well.

Peace!
Title: Re: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: AZGiantFan on March 23, 2024, 01:09:55 PM
Quote from: londonblue on March 23, 2024, 10:46:53 AMIt did not create a large favourable net points off turnovers margin (because our O sucked) so arguably it did not boost our record much. Our record was also hurt by a -50 sack differential, easily the worst in the league. How much? Make your own mind up.

I'd expect both the outlying turnover and sack differentials to normalise. Whether either change translates into a shift in our W-L record will depend on many other factors.

Their record was also hurt by the fact that they had a horrific rush defense, something that is constantly overlooked by those singing encomiums to Wink.
Title: Re: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: MightyGiants on March 23, 2024, 01:54:59 PM
The irony was that three-game winning streak that tanked the Giants chances for an elite QB and sparked Devito-mania was driven more by the turnovers from the defense than it was Devito's throwing acuman
Title: Re: Scary thought - Giants record was boosted by a +12 turnover differential
Post by: Ed Vette on March 23, 2024, 02:52:14 PM
I remember mentioning this to our resident Cutlets Fan.

Hey, when the ball bounces your way, take it.

I'll never hope for a loss to get a higher draft pick. Game day, I'm all in.