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#1
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 05:04:28 PMAnd I never said that they shouldn't. I am simply disputing the notion that the league is not popular, or that it's only popular with non-serious, pop culture-seeking fans. I do not believe that to be a factually accurate statement. It is not backed up by the numbers, nor is it backed up anecdotally when I look at this forum and I watch/attend NFL games and see plenty of older generation fans in the stands.
LOL so perhaps my use of the word popular was a bit of an over reach. I wasn't trying to claim a demographic study of who likes or dislikes the current version of the NFL.

My claim was solely my perspective, and to share my disappointment in an organization that I grew up loving (I was born and raised less than 8 miles from the PFHOF).

Now my football consumption is mostly confined to our Giants, and a few select collegiate teams as well as High School.

I don't like the current schedule and if they go to 18 I'll like it even less.


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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 04:48:49 PMOk, and it seems you have stuck around and continue to do so. As have I (also been watching since early 80s) and plenty of other middle aged or older fans here. So it would seem that not only has the NFL managed to attract fans from the younger, short-attention span, pop culture-seeking generations you are referencing, but it has managed to maintain fans that were watching several decades ago. All of that flies in contrast with the notion that Goodell is "ruining" this league or that the league is only popular with a certain type of fan that is somehow beneath fans that used to watch the league back in the day.

If anyone wants to say they don't like the NFL anymore, that is perfectly fine and that is their opinion, but I don't see how anyone can rationally dispute the league's current popularity.
Because one doesn't like nor agree with the way the NFL runs its business doesn't mean that they shouldn't continue to follow their favorite team.

I believe the league could and should do much better by its players (past and current), that doesn't mean I should sacrifice something I've cultivated with my favorite team and communities like this one.

When I referred to the league not being as popular to guys like me that's what I meant.

Because I'm not a fan of the league nor Goodell doesn't mean I'm obligated to boycott my team. I boycott by not watching every night that they air, nor buying any merch which is labeled only NFL.


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#3
Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 03:39:55 PMAre you of the opinion that before Goodell, the NFL "cared" about players more?  Or were more safety conscious?
I'm of the opinion that in this day and age, we should be evolved enough as a community, particularly given all the resources available, to care now.

Edit to add: and care more about those who are retired and continue to suffer.
#4
24 yrs old and can't pass protect?

He can catch, I hope he's explosive.


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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 02:53:46 PMLike him or not, the league has done nothing but explode in popularity under his watch.
I disagree.

Marketed ad nauseam world-wide, over exposed and over played...yes.

Popular? Not to any true fan who actually care about the players.

It's become the 21st Century version of the Gladiators (no not the tv show, the real thing).

Show some true care and concern for the players post career and stop trying to play 6 days per week 23 weeks of the year, and regain the respect of the fans.


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Quote from: todge on Today at 12:54:29 PMFlying under the radar is the Free Agent signing of Dante Miller from South Carolina.He became a Free Agent when the NCAA botched his eligibility. At 5-9 and 200 lbs. he ran a 4.27 and benched 28 reps. Both would have been
the best at the Combine for RBs. He would have been a 2nd or 3rd Round Draft choice.


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Built like Lil' Joe in his prime....that's good to know.


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#7
So what is this 8 TE's on the roster now?!!

Where are all the quality running backs?!


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#8
Quote from: katkavage on Today at 11:00:31 AMMight be true, but they are a money machine and the owners love it.
Exactly, it's all a money grab anymore. The traditions, talent and exposure are all watered down.

Defenses can no longer be dominant like they used to be, and they run through players like Kleenex tissue with the inattention to playing surfaces and recovery time.

18 games? Hell why not make it 20 and put flags on them?! Oh wait, that's what he's pondering!
#9
I would have also taken Nabers.

That being said, there's no better collegiate program today from where to invest in an OL than Notre Dame. So IMHO you couldn't really go wrong taking him.


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#10
Goodell should mull stepping away, he's systematically ruining the NFL.


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#11
A total of 6 picks, this is exactly why I wanted them to trade down. They could've stayed within the top 15, still have an impact WR available and stocked up on picks (and maybe an established Corner).


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#12
If they can solidify the OL, establish a running game and pass pro....and he still cannot develop a consistent downfield passing threat and manage to stay healthy...it's time to move on!


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#13
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 26, 2024, 05:41:20 PMI said it was going to be very physical, because that's what teams think it will take to stop NY. And boy was it ever - first flagrant foul within minutes of tip off with an elbow to Divi's eye - bleeding like a sieve. Then Embid got away with a flagrant foul by stiff arming Mitch and then grabbing his leg as Mitch came down, causing him to land on the back of his neck under the basket...got a foul call, but it wasn't called flagrant - and everyone could see it was flagrant. Mitch could not return to the game. Then later, Embid wrapped up Hartenstein again as he was coming down the court, and this time brought up his knee with a hard shot to the groin, laying out I-Hart. That was called "Flagrant 1" and announcers both said that both flagrant 1s should've been flagrant 2s, and the first hard foul delivered by Embid should've been flagrant

Rough game. Thought I was watching hockey for a bit. It's obvious Philly's game plan - hard fouls over and over and try to injure a Knick

https://dailyknicks.com/posts/joel-embiid-selfish-excuse-dirty-play-infuriate-knicks-fans-all-over-again-robinson?sc=be165671da3b347e2b57f31b3de62ada4335dd4eb041bc409f5188d150192a90
Yeah I feel like the refs felt compelled to over correct their performance at the Garden. But the Sixers and Embiid in particular, THUGGED their way through this one while the refs basically looked away.

NOT COOL!

I hope we DESTROY them in game 4 and then finish them off at the Garden.


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#14
I want a STUD RB & OG


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Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 11:45:49 PMMay I share something?

Daniel Jones has played a total of five seasons in the NFL.

In the two seasons he had a decent offensive line, ranked 18th and 17th, he had his best years.

In 2022 when the O line performed about average, he posted 3,900 total yards which included his rushing stats, and a QBR of 60.2 which ranked 6th, and a 92.3 RTG which ranked 13th.

I hear that you are saying the Giants weren't a good team in 2022, but the fact that he posted those kinds of numbers on a bad team, and helped them make the playoffs, what would happen if he was actually on a good team?

For instance, the Giants have added an elite #1 WR, and if they upgrade the O line from 30th to say around 15th, do you think Daniel Jones' stats will improve? and will the Giants begin to win again?
This sounds like a conversation between Mara and Schoen.


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