Big Blue Huddle

I remember some on the board pounding the table for Pace ahead of and during the draft.

The fact that he went undrafted and is now the 2nd highest rated LB in the league is crazy:

https://twitter.com/pff/status/1707402283334643732?s=46&t=H9SphhOsUH0NkRQuSk3J-A

Even after MM's career game last week, sure would be nice to have a young guy with upside in a position that's been bereft of real talent for a decade.

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 27, 2023, 01:44:00 PMAnd that's where a lot of times at the LOS audibling out of a play and knowing what your hot read is vital for a QB.  The coming pressure is out of his control but how a QB adjusts and reacts to it is within his control.

So you're saying Jones should assume he's going to face pressure at all times and  constantly be calling audibles?

Do you not think that the abundance of 4-yard catches are the exact outcome your asking for in Jones going to his hot read?

I know you and Trench will take any opportunity to blame Jones for anything and everything, but this one really does take the cake.

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 27, 2023, 11:03:41 AMI think the second stat is the more damning one.  Pressure under 2 seconds will blow up almost any play from any offense.  It's hard to put up a consistent offense if you are averaging nine blown-up plays due to major blocking failures a game. 

Until or unless they can fix this issue, the offense will continue to struggle.  I feel optimistic good health will fix the issues with the left side of the line; I am not sure what can fix the issues Neal is having.  However, I will say this, coaches can usually coverup the deficiencies of one weak OT via scheme providing the other OT is sound. 

Agree 100%. While being worst in the league at allowing pressure on pass plays is certainly a very bad thing, allowing immediate pressure will create unavoidable failure.

And to do at a rate twice as much as the second worst team is inexcusable. Bobby Johnson needs to go. Otherwise, the buck stops with Daboll. Period.

2022  1  Kayvon Thibodeaux  5 --  disappointment thus far. Some validity to questions around how he's being used, but 1) he hasn't performed even when asked to pass rush, and 2) why draft an edge rusher so high if you're just going to ask him to set the edge, drop back in coverage?

2022  1  Evan Neal  7  -- major disappointment thus far. Has actually looked worse than last year, which is a major concern. Again, some valid questions here around coaching and development, but the eye test right now tells me Neal will not succeed at tackle. The sooner they make a decision on whether to move him, the better his chance to be successful.

2022  2  Wan'Dale Robinson  43  -- persistently injured, Robinson now seems like a luxury pick on a team full of holes. With the OL struggling to provide protection, he's a guy that should be helping with quick throws and YAC. His production in his first game was lacking.

2022  3  Joshua Ezeudu  67  -- uneven performance thus far. Wasn't able to beat out either starting guards, then performs admirably in emergency duty at LT. Team needs to give him a position and have him dive in with both feet. Shows WAY more athleticism than Neal, so I'd like to see a chance at RT.

2022  3  Cordale Flott  81  -- injured, and not even able to unseat Holmes when healthy. Had more hope for Flott, but he hasn't been able to step up. With Robinson looking like a lost cause and the potential to lose Jackson in the offseason, the team needs Flott to contribute.
   
2022  4  Daniel Bellinger  112  -- after a solid rookie season, hasn't found his footing in his backup role to Waller. Need him to be a force as a blocker, but too many mistakes thus far.

2022  4  Dane Belton  114  -- injured. Pinnock has seemingly staked his claim to one of the safety spots, but between McKinney's poor play and ending contract, there will likely be a spot up for grabs. I'm not convinced Belton is the man for the job, which is too bad, as a 4th round safety should be a contributor.

2022  5  Micah McFadden  146  -- has looked too slow and not athletic enough for much of his NFL career, then has game of his life against the 49ers. There's a chance for MM to be a fixture on this defense, but he needs to be a film rat and hone his instincts to make up for his lack of athleticism.

2022  5  D.J. Davidson  147  -- someone I didn't really think about, Davidson has had a strong year thus far. Let's hope the injury in last game doesn't derail the momentum he built.

2022  5  Marcus McKethan  173  -- pretty uneven in spot duty due to injuries to starters. Maybe with a better OL coach, McKethan could develop into something.

2022  6  Darrian Beavers  182  -- injured. Not sure he's a part of the team's future.

In summary, between disappointing performance of high 1st rounders and injuries, this draft class is not looking promising early on in Year 2. How long this rebuild will take will be impacted a great deal by these players' ability to step up.

They improve and Giants have a good offseason, this team can compete as soon as next year. They continue to struggle and underperform, and it sets them back another 2-3 years.

Quote from: Bigmoose on September 24, 2023, 02:36:07 PMGlowinski is not the future.  I like the playing of Lemieux because it was a chance to see whether he will be a player going forward.  Despite fan expectations, we are in the second year of the new regime and they are still evaluating certain players with this very young team. They need to see the longer picture even if it hurts in the short term. Playing Lemieux against a top defense provided key information about his status, and I have no problem with it.

There has never been anything to like about playing Lemieux. He is not good and not NFL caliber. The sooner he's off the team, the better.

I have no interest in Pugh. My first choice would be to try Ez at RT and push Neal to RG. Second choice would be keep Neal at RT and play Ez at RG. But an injured 33 year old is not the answer and not something we should be spending money on.

McFadden had his best game maybe ever, but he still showed on several occasions why he is a limited player. I think putting Micah and Simmons in the right situations will allow both to be at their most successful.

I'm fine with Wan'dale getting Campbell's reps, but if Kafka is the one calling plays, I don't see what Wan'dale is going to do any different. We have to be bottom of the league in YAC.

I don't see Hyatt replacing Slayton. He'll likely start to get more snaps, but he'll still be used situationally.

Other changes I'd like to see are Flott replacing Holmes, Fox replacing Ximines, and Riley in for Davidson.

Hyatt most definitely should be playing more.

Simmons I'm a bit more torn on. I don't ever see Simmons as being an every-down LB or even a 75% snap guy. He has many holes in his game, and those holes should be avoided by playing him in the right situations. While 30% might be too low for him, I think he'd be a liability if out there the majority of the game. I'd rather get 5 big plays from him in limited snaps vs. 5 big plays and 5 big misses in a higher snap count.

Quote from: Trench on August 03, 2023, 04:48:40 PMI don't believe so. In fact if we closely look at Jones, his tendency is to throw a high ball so the bigger WR are a benefit to his game

Yeah, I really don't see any chance of Hodgins being overshadowed or the odd man out. His performance last year was maybe a hair shy of A+. He was DJ's most reliable and most productive receiver for a good chunk of a critical development year for our young QB.

That type of bond is not going to be cast aside because of an inconsistent Slayton and fragile Campbell. Hodgins is the clear #2 on this team behind Waller, and I don't see anyone particularly close to him.

Quote from: Philosophers on July 26, 2023, 08:38:45 PMExactly how much overpaying do you think a 1,300 yard rushing RB is getting?

Do you think other newly signed contracts are exactly market value?

Overpaying would have been bending over to Saquon's demands for Kamara money over multiple years. Schoen didn't do that, saved the team money, kept flexibility in the years ahead, and he still has his man in camp on Day 1. He could not have handled the situation any better.

Quote from: PSUBeirut on July 26, 2023, 05:38:54 PMCan't catch, doesn't deserve money that pass-catching RBs get.  Nothing to see here.   

Overpaying someone when absolutely no one else in the league is doing the same is straight out of the Gettleman playbook.

Thank goodness we have a competent GM now. Signed his man at a team-friendly rate and keeps ultimate flexibility for future years. Kudos Schoen!

There are few people who can best Rodgers on the grand stage of douchebaggery. Rogan - without question - is one of them.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 03, 2021, 07:37:18 AM
While many are applauding this move, I continue to feel sports are becoming (or have already become) way too political in recent years. When most people tune into sports, they are not looking for a constant barrage of in-your-face political expression. Not the majority of fans anyway. And that goes for both conservatives and liberals. People on both sides of the spectrum tune in because they want to watch their favorite teams and favorite athletes play the sports they love. Period. There are more than enough vehicles and avenues through which to be political in modern life. Sports does not need to be so deeply embroiled in all of this as well. And I'm not suggesting there should be no recognition at all of key issues. Some of that is clearly fine - that has always been there. I just think it has become too constant and too in-you-face, all the time. Ultimately I think this will hurt leagues, who already as it is have major issues with TV ratings.

Counter point. While you may feel the exact opposite, athletes are not there for your amusement. They are real people, living real lives. YOU choose to follow THEIR lives. You don

Not sure why anyone would be shocked by what happened. Pretty perfect encapsulation of who Americans are, if you ask me.