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Quote from: Bob In PA on Today at 09:31:32 AMmadb: Do you disagree with my post (the part about Nabers)?  Bob

He was rated higher than sixth but was always going to go no higher than 3rd or 4th. In fact almost every mock had us taking either him of JJ McCarthy so he went where he was projected. I'm thrilled we got him but it's hard to say anyone drafted in the top 6 offers value.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:30:42 AMTo point B, there are also those who feel that Saquan has more reputation than production last season.  To those people, losing Barkley was not an issue.

I agree with that, but I also think he was still the focal point of defenses. 

Quote from: sjones71 on Today at 07:49:13 AMAn effort made to get Maye. Clearly they did not have a high enough opinion on McCarthy or other options such as Nix, Penix. Given that, you get yourself what appears to be an incredibly talented WR who can turn routine plays into big gains. Sets us up for when we are able to address QB and gives Jones another no-excuses season.

That's it in a nutshell: the Giants needed an elite receiver on their offense, and now they have one.  The QB issue is a separate issue

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 09:17:58 AMI'm with Dave. I don't see much in the way of value even if four of the guys drafted start next year. To me value is drafting a guy who unexpectedly dropped to them. For instance Kool Aid McKinstry was a consensus top 10 pick this time last year. He almost made it to us at 47. That pick imho would have been tremendous value. I'll say this for Schoen and company, they don't reach for guys. Everyone they picked went in the range that they were projected to go.

madb: Do you disagree with my post (the part about Nabers)?  Bob

Quote from: Bob In PA on Today at 07:50:13 AMInjuries aside, it depends who is shown to have been correct. Two issues:

(A) Did we need a better QB than Jones? - If the "we need a new QB" people are correct, the Giants will continue to stink. If the "we need an elite weapon" people are correct, the Giants will make enough progress to get maybe nine wins. The schedule this year will be a bit easier and the offense will be able to either to keep the ball away from the opponent or attempt to outscore them (depending on which team we're playing).

(B) Is running back really a lot less important than it has been historically? - If the "yes" people are correct then the Giants have a good-enough answer to the absence of Saquon and we'll be ok because the offensive line has clearly been upgraded.  If the "no" people are correct, we will miss Saquon and teams won't have to game-plan to stop him, leaving them free to game-plan to stop either the upgraded receiving corps or spy Jones and keep him from running the ball.

Bob

PS. Defense will be about the same as last year, but don't forget we must have (a) someone step up as a viable replacement for Leonard Williams (IMO he was an unsung hero on defense and a good running partner for Dexter); and (b) we need a young veteran to become a "star" (maybe number five, maybe Burns, maybe Okereke) plus no 2nd-year player fall into a sophomore-year slump.  That may seem to be a lot to hope for, but IMO it's not only do-able.

To point B, there are also those who feel that Saquan has more reputation than production last season.  To those people, losing Barkley was not an issue.

I know the draft was on everyone's mind this weekend, but did Ranger fans notice that all teams up 3-0, or 2-0 going into yesterday's games all lost? There were two great overtime contests in Long Island, where the Isles lived to fight another day, and in Vegas, where the Stars' light refused to dim.

What are the Caps going to throw at the Rangers in game four later tonight 8 PM EDT (5 PM MST)? Will Ovechkin finally wake from the dead? Will Charlie stand on his head? Will Wilson go out to try and hurt a Ranger player or two? Odds are all of this, and more, are things the Rangers will need to overcome today.

Great games today and the Avs and Jets start it up at 11:30 AM local, 2:30 PM EDT. Great hockey day ahead!

Let's go Rangers!

Quote from: Bob In PA on Today at 07:50:13 AMPS. Defense will be about the same as last year, but don't forget we must have (a) someone step up as a viable replacement for Leonard Williams (IMO he was an unsung hero on defense and a good running partner for Dexter); and (b) we need a young veteran to become a "star" (maybe number five, maybe Burns, maybe Okereke) plus no 2nd-year player fall into a sophomore-year slump.  That may seem to be a lot to hope for, but IMO it's not only do-able.

We have a new defensive coordinator who could be either a stud or a bum.

It's hard to envision a successful season next year with an injury prone Jones at the helm. I think we're slightly better defensively now than at the end of last year but even though we improved the offensive line losing Barkley really hurts. I don't think teams are going to lose sleep at the thought of stopping our run game. I see 6-7 wins.

I'm with Dave. I don't see much in the way of value even if four of the guys drafted start next year. To me value is drafting a guy who unexpectedly dropped to them. For instance Kool Aid McKinstry was a consensus top 10 pick this time last year. He almost made it to us at 47. That pick imho would have been tremendous value. I'll say this for Schoen and company, they don't reach for guys. Everyone they picked went in the range that they were projected to go.