OTA 2 reports

[MightyGiants]

https://www.giants.com/news/malik-nabers-ota-highlights-recap-daniel-jones-tommy-devito


https://www.giants.com/news/daniel-jones-malik-nabers-otas-highlights-report-tommy-devito-brian-daboll

[Jclayton92]

1st team Oline:

LT Thomas
LG Eluemunor
C JMS
RG Runyan
RT Neal

[MightyGiants]

1st team Oline:

LT Thomas
LG Eluemunor
C JMS
RG Runyan
RT Neal

If Neal improves to the point of being serviceable (quite the bar for a 7th overall draft pick), this would seem to be the best combination available.

[Rosehill Jimmy]

If Neal improves to the point of being serviceable (quite the bar for a 7th overall draft pick), this would seem to be the best combination available.

I thought Runyan was a LG and Eleumunor a RG?

[MightyGiants]

I thought Runyan was a LG and Eleumunor a RG?

You could be right. I vaguely remember Runyan saying he could play either guard, but his preference is for LG.

[Jclayton92]

Runyan is a better LG than RG but Eluemunor is likely a better LG than RG which is why the combo is what it is currently.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1793649292890292583

https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1768342405000901014

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793648013010776173

[DaveBrown74]

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793648013010776173

Neal should get one more opportunity to be a productive NFL RT. But that's it. This is year three, and the guy was a consensus top 10 pick. It's sink or swim time, and I frankly wouldn't give him much rope at all this year given we now have a competent RT in Eleumenor. If he starts at RT in week one, I would not keep him in for more than a couple games if he is bad again.

In fact, as I said in another thread about a month ago, it is not even clear to me why Neal should be some preordained lock to start at the position. The guy has been nothing short of awful at it for two years now. Eleumenor was solid last year at RT on the Raiders. Why is it a lock that Neal should start in even week one?

I thought we wanted to make things as favorable as possible for DJ, not try to cling to an agenda of making a hitherto draft bust work out.

[Jclayton92]

Neal should get one more opportunity to be a productive NFL RT. But that's it. This is year three, and the guy was a consensus top 10 pick. It's sink or swim time, and I frankly wouldn't give him much rope at all this year given we now have a competent RT in Eleumenor. If he starts at RT in week one, I would not keep him in for more than a couple games if he is bad again.

In fact, as I said in another thread about a month ago, it is not even clear to me why Neal should be some preordained lock to start at the position. The guy has been nothing short of awful at it for two years now. Eleumenor was solid last year at RT on the Raiders. Why is it a lock that Neal should start in even week one?

I thought we wanted to make things as favorable as possible for DJ, not try to cling to an agenda of making a hitherto draft bust work out.

I believe if the season started tomorrow and they didn't feel comfortable rolling with Neal, that Matt Nelson would get the nod at RT and Eluemunor would stay where he is.

It was confirmed last week and I posted it in another thread that Neal was significantly injured even while playing his rookie and sophomore campaign. They beat writer that was speaking on it said in practices and games he had personnel mention to him that Neal could barely move or couldn't move well bc of injury and everyone in the know could tell. That he still wanted to be out there even though he was badly injured.

With that now out and the combination of a new Oline coach, Stability at RG, him getting good reps before Injury last season, and him being completely healthy I think we get a substantially better Neal.

[DaveBrown74]

I believe if the season started tomorrow and they didn't feel comfortable rolling with Neal, that Matt Nelson would get the nod at RT and Eluemunor would stay where he is.

It was confirmed last week and I posted it in another thread that Neal was significantly injured even while playing his rookie and sophomore campaign. They beat writer that was speaking on it said in practices and games he had personnel mention to him that Neal could barely move or couldn't move well bc of injury and everyone in the know could tell. That he still wanted to be out there even though he was badly injured.

With that now out and the combination of a new Oline coach, Stability at RG, him getting good reps before Injury last season, and him being completely healthy I think we get a substantially better Neal.

I sure hope you're right JC.

[madbadger]

Due to injuries Neal has only played in 20 games. I get the frustration but some patience is warranted IMHO. The Giants did him no favors saddling him with the worst offensive line coach in the league the last years.

[DaveBrown74]

I would say starting him this year after how he played the last two years, which I am fine doing, qualifies as patience.

With that said the team needs to be responsible. He has had the whole offseason to get healthy, this is year three, and we now have a suitable alternative at the position. If Neal goes in in the first couple of weeks and is once again awful right from the jump, and it is clearly hurting the team, I would not continue to cling to him in that role much beyond that. I'd give Eleumenor a shot. My best guess is that that is the current plan.

[MightyGiants]

Neal should get one more opportunity to be a productive NFL RT. But that's it. This is year three, and the guy was a consensus top 10 pick. It's sink or swim time, and I frankly wouldn't give him much rope at all this year given we now have a competent RT in Eleumenor. If he starts at RT in week one, I would not keep him in for more than a couple games if he is bad again.

In fact, as I said in another thread about a month ago, it is not even clear to me why Neal should be some preordained lock to start at the position. The guy has been nothing short of awful at it for two years now. Eleumenor was solid last year at RT on the Raiders. Why is it a lock that Neal should start in even week one?

I thought we wanted to make things as favorable as possible for DJ, not try to cling to an agenda of making a hitherto draft bust work out.

With a new O-line coach, I don't think Neal is still on scholarship.   Who starts where should be the call of Bricillo and Daboll.  So I would think Neal's 7th overall draft status isn't as strong as it had been.