Goodell, NFL are mulling an 18 game regular season with just two preseason games and the Superbowl on the holiday weekend.
Thoughts?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40031468/roger-goodell-mulls-18-game-slate-president-day-weekend-super-bowl
He won't stop chasing a buck until 50% of his former players are dead by the age of 40. With all that we know about the impact of head injuries you'd think that they'd be looking for ways to shorten the season instead of adding more.
Pretty much knew this was coming when they went to 17 games.
I do like the idea of a Holiday weekend Super Bowl.
Goodell should mull stepping away, he's systematically ruining the NFL.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 27, 2024, 10:41:02 AMGoodell should mull stepping away, he's systematically ruining the NFL.
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Might be true, but they are a money machine and the owners love it.
Quote from: katkavage on April 27, 2024, 11:00:31 AMMight be true, but they are a money machine and the owners love it.
Exactly, it's all a money grab anymore. The traditions, talent and exposure are all watered down.
Defenses can no longer be dominant like they used to be, and they run through players like Kleenex tissue with the inattention to playing surfaces and recovery time.
18 games? Hell why not make it 20 and put flags on them?! Oh wait, that's what he's pondering!
I hate the modern NFL. If I was younger and not motivated by nostalgia and tradition I'm sure I'd not be remotely interested.
Quote from: madbadger on April 27, 2024, 09:53:13 AMHe won't stop chasing a buck until 50% of his former players are dead by the age of 40. With all that we know about the impact of head injuries you'd think that they'd be looking for ways to shorten the season instead of adding more.
I agree. More hits, less time to prepare equals higher risk for injuries and shorter NFL careers. Translate: players want to be paid even more if their futures are at higher risk of being debilitated. More NFLPA grievances against Goodell and his band of billionaires. It's little wonder the romance of the sport has gone the way of the dinosaur. Not even the late Steve Sabol could manufacture a script for NFL Films to cover up how the greed and ultimate lacking for what's best for the players' safety has compromised the sport.
Goodell is completely missing the point. Take care of the players and the current issues, regarding safety, in today's game, first and foremost!
Peace!
Greed knows no bounds. 18 games, short weeks with Thursday games and whatever other ideas they can come up with that are detrimental to the players health. Isn't the average career short enough?
don't forget expansion. Two scenarios: add eight teams with one additional team in @ division OR add four and re-shuffle into NFC east central and west, with AFC east central and west. The latter is easier in terms of adding teams but awful with a major re-shuffle. And yes I foresee teams outside the US...london, 1 or 2 in germany??, mexico city, maybe toronto, plus some more in US like San Antonio, etc. I believe we will see something like one of those 2 scenarios above happen within the next ten years.
I wish they would just add a second bye week instead.
When is enough is enough? Never.
We vacation every year that Holiday weekend and this would really suck for us. Sometimes we may be in another country that may not have the game. They also are encroaching on the Winter Olympics once every 4 years.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 27, 2024, 10:41:02 AMGoodell should mull stepping away, he's systematically ruining the NFL.
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Like him or not, the league has done nothing but explode in popularity under his watch.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 02:53:46 PMLike him or not, the league has done nothing but explode in popularity under his watch.
I disagree.
Marketed ad nauseam world-wide, over exposed and over played...yes.
Popular? Not to any true fan who actually care about the players.
It's become the 21st Century version of the Gladiators (no not the tv show, the real thing).
Show some true care and concern for the players post career and stop trying to play 6 days per week 23 weeks of the year, and regain the respect of the fans.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 27, 2024, 03:27:51 PMI disagree.
Marketed ad nauseam world-wide, over exposed and over played...yes.
Popular? Not to any true fan who actually care about the players.
It's become the 21st Century version of the Gladiators (no not the tv show, the real thing).
Show some true care and concern for the players post career and stop trying to play 6 days per week 23 weeks of the year, and regain the respect of the fans.
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Are you of the opinion that before Goodell, the NFL "cared" about players more? Or were more safety conscious?
Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 27, 2024, 03:39:55 PMAre you of the opinion that before Goodell, the NFL "cared" about players more? Or were more safety conscious?
I'm of the opinion that in this day and age, we should be evolved enough as a community, particularly given all the resources available, to care now.
Edit to add: and care more about those who are retired and continue to suffer.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 27, 2024, 03:27:51 PMPopular? Not to any true fan who actually care about the players.
I'm not sure I follow. You're saying anyone who is an NFL fan today doesn't care about the players? or cares less about them than fans of 30-50 years ago?
Please explain how the NFL of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s cared more about the players than the NFL of today. How did the fans back then care more? Do you think someone like Mike Webster's family would agree with you?
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 02:53:46 PMLike him or not, the league has done nothing but explode in popularity under his watch.
I think its more the sort of popularity that attracts modern audiences to auto-tuned techo pop garbage instead of Beethoven, Led Zeppelin,and Charlie Parker. It's mostly just background noise that folks gather around in groups and sift though on their devices, but don't really invest in very deeply.
Now get off my lawn.
Quote from: TONKA56 on April 27, 2024, 04:16:27 PMI think its more the sort of popularity that attracts modern audiences to auto-tuned techo pop garbage instead of Beethoven, Led Zeppelin,and Charlie Parker. It's mostly just background noise that folks gather around in groups and sift though on their devices, but don't really invest in very deeply.
Now get off my lawn.
Do you watch NFL games?
So much for players long-term health but the onus remains on the NFLPA.
Many former players recognize their life spans will be shortened and still will take the cash
Vegas loves it and bettors too.
Quote from: TONKA56 on April 27, 2024, 04:33:49 PMSince about 1981. Why?
Ok, and it seems you have stuck around and continue to do so. As have I (also been watching since early 80s) and plenty of other middle aged or older fans here. So it would seem that not only has the NFL managed to attract fans from the younger, short-attention span, pop culture-seeking generations you are referencing, but it has managed to maintain fans that were watching several decades ago. All of that flies in contrast with the notion that Goodell is "ruining" this league or that the league is only popular with a certain type of fan that is somehow beneath fans that used to watch the league back in the day.
If anyone wants to say they don't like the NFL anymore, that is perfectly fine and that is their opinion, but I don't see how anyone can rationally dispute the league's current popularity.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 04:48:49 PMOk, and it seems you have stuck around and continue to do so. As have I (also been watching since early 80s) and plenty of other middle aged or older fans here. So it would seem that not only has the NFL managed to attract fans from the younger, short-attention span, pop culture-seeking generations you are referencing, but it has managed to maintain fans that were watching several decades ago. All of that flies in contrast with the notion that Goodell is "ruining" this league or that the league is only popular with a certain type of fan that is somehow beneath fans that used to watch the league back in the day.
If anyone wants to say they don't like the NFL anymore, that is perfectly fine and that is their opinion, but I don't see how anyone can rationally dispute the league's current popularity.
Because one doesn't like nor agree with the way the NFL runs its business doesn't mean that they shouldn't continue to follow their favorite team.
I believe the league could and should do much better by its players (past and current), that doesn't mean I should sacrifice something I've cultivated with my favorite team and communities like this one.
When I referred to the league not being as popular to guys like me that's what I meant.
Because I'm not a fan of the league nor Goodell doesn't mean I'm obligated to boycott my team. I boycott by not watching every night that they air, nor buying any merch which is labeled only NFL.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 27, 2024, 04:58:41 PMBecause one doesn't like nor agree with the way the NFL runs its business doesn't mean that they shouldn't continue to follow their favorite team.
And I never said that they shouldn't. I am simply disputing the notion that the league is not popular, or that it's only popular with non-serious, pop culture-seeking fans. I do not believe that to be a factually accurate statement. It is not backed up by the numbers, nor is it backed up anecdotally when I look at this forum and I watch/attend NFL games and see plenty of older generation fans in the stands.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 27, 2024, 05:04:28 PMAnd I never said that they shouldn't. I am simply disputing the notion that the league is not popular, or that it's only popular with non-serious, pop culture-seeking fans. I do not believe that to be a factually accurate statement. It is not backed up by the numbers, nor is it backed up anecdotally when I look at this forum and I watch/attend NFL games and see plenty of older generation fans in the stands.
LOL so perhaps my use of the word popular was a bit of an over reach. I wasn't trying to claim a demographic study of who likes or dislikes the current version of the NFL.
My claim was solely my perspective, and to share my disappointment in an organization that I grew up loving (I was born and raised less than 8 miles from the PFHOF).
Now my football consumption is mostly confined to our Giants, and a few select collegiate teams as well as High School.
I don't like the current schedule and if they go to 18 I'll like it even less.
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