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General Category => Chalk Talk => Topic started by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 04:34:52 PM

Title: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 04:34:52 PM
It's a hot one and far fewer fans. In the meantime we play.
Title: 2023 Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 04:47:42 PM
@Trench
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 28, 2023, 04:57:57 PM
KT training the undrafted rookie
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 06:11:46 PM
Sills having a good day. Also had his time with the ones.

Hyatt strong day with the ones.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 06:14:33 PM
Strong day for the Offense
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: DaveBrown74 on July 28, 2023, 06:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 06:11:46 PMHyatt strong day with the ones.

Great to hear. What types of routes was he running?
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Trench on July 28, 2023, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 04:47:42 PM@Trench

Awesome...I'm still holding out hope!
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on July 28, 2023, 06:31:07 PMGreat to hear. What types of routes was he running?
He caught comebacks, a slant and curls. He ran several Go Routes that went to other Receivers.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 28, 2023, 08:42:55 PM
Here is my report

I noticed that KT is now the alpha dog when it comes to the edge drills, KT is the first to run them

Jones had a couple of bad throws, but overall his throws were very good.  Jones really seems to have taken a big step forward.

I was really impressed with a great catch from Slayton.  Slayton waited until the last possible second to look back and raise his hands, making it much harder for the defense to defend (lack of warning)

I studied Neil quite a bit and I think he looks much better than last season,  I noticed Neil was even getting snaps with the 2s (half anyway) as well as the ones

Hyatt was quite busy taking snaps with all strings and making a few catches.

I thought Peart looks bigger than I remember him

Banks is having some rookie growing pains

Brederson was the starting center today (Ezeudu was the LG)

I saw McFadden taking some snaps with the ones

I seriously doubt DeVito is going to be an NFL QB

S Gervarrius Owens (sore) and WR Cole Beasley (quad) didn't practice today.
Nunez-Roches remains out.

For years I remember everyone (myself included talking about the defense being ahead of the offense).   That doesn't seem to be the case this year.

That said, Wink did scheme up some blitzes that got home

https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1685070191770718208


Bobby McCain's day as 1st-team S
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 09:40:43 PM
I was sitting next to Bobby Skinner again and he was paying close attention to Evan Neal, so as a result I was focusing more on Neal too. He was on our side of the field today. Watching how he handled Ojulari and Thibs was very encouraging. He even had extended snaps with the Twos. He's doing much better getting that third step in and it's made a difference in protection and maintaining control of the outside rush. We know he lost weight and converted to muscle. We know he had an extensive Off-Season program. All this seems to have paid off. The key to me is how he handles Defenders with multiple moves and moves to the inside and how he handles Blitz packages. He certainly has the tenacity as evidenced in him taking on I believe 6-6, 276 LB Ryder Anderson to the ground and he stood his ground as they jawed at it.

Last year if you asked me after three sessions if Jones looked like the dominant starting QB, I would have said and I probably did, that there didn't seem to be much separation between Jones and Tyrod Taylor. I remember it took a while for Webb to get up to speed, which is where I see Tommy DiVito, strong arm but indecisive and inaccurate. Circling back to Danial Jones...I was his original detractor before it became fashionable. I have to say that in that one year, he has grown and developed and I think you all are going to be much happier with him behind Center. Last year I remember that even without pads there were multiple run simulations early on and we haven't seen much of that so far. A bit more today as the Players were in Shorts and Shells. The main focus has been the passing game...

We are seeing multiple players get snaps with the Ones. We know the starting guys are Waller, Hodgins, Slayton, and Campbell but Hyatt, Sills, Bellinger, Pimpleton, BFW, and Mickens all had some opportunity with the first and second teams. It's a shame that Robinson and Shepard are sidelined but it's also good because it's giving more snaps to Waller, Campbell, and Hyatt that they wouldn't have gotten. We can see that DJ is comfortable with Waller and he's a game changer for DJ. He also has a great rapport with Slayton as Rich mentioned on that deep sideline pass. DJ has Slayton, TT has Cager and DeVito has Sills as their comfort player. It's been clear to me that Hyatt in three days has elevated himself in the eyes of the Coaching Staff and they definitely are going to get him involved and develop his skills.

Other than a few blitz packages, the Offense clearly dominated today. Let's see what happens when the pads go on.

Not a lot to see on Special Teams but the Hammer did do some non-directional punting. The ball sailed as there was a tailwind which made the punts hard to field. I'm somewhat dismayed that there has been a lack of focus on Special teams. Far from the school of Bill Parcells. Hopefully, it's getting more focus next week. Punt and Kickoff Coverage is extremely important.

One other thing... don't ever ask me to hold your high profile five seats during a Full House, while you go galavanting away for 30 minutes, leaving me to deal with the consequences. Nuff said.

Finally a shout out to Bobby Skinner and Justin Penik from Talkin' Giants, who are so gracious to every person that approached them to shake hands, get an autograph, take a picture, or just chat briefly. Their knowledge of the game goes without saying and we all know that but their appreciation to their fan base is admirable and refreshing. It was enjoyable to witness.     

   

Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Jaime on July 29, 2023, 12:53:17 AM
Great stuff Ed & Rich =D>
Miss being at Camp with you two.
Keep those  Reports coming :Chestram:
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: AZGiantFan on July 29, 2023, 01:26:32 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on July 28, 2023, 07:55:56 PMHe caught comebacks, a slant and curls. He ran several Go Routes that went to other Receivers.

Still showing the good hands?
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 29, 2023, 07:03:18 AM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on July 29, 2023, 01:26:32 AMStill showing the good hands?
So far. I recall one drop earlier in the week.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 07:07:13 AM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on July 29, 2023, 01:26:32 AMStill showing the good hands?

Yes, it seemed to me his hands are a strength
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: DaveBrown74 on July 29, 2023, 07:37:53 AM
Anyone get eyes on Eric Gray? I assume he's not practicing with the 1s at all.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: DaveBrown74 on July 29, 2023, 07:50:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g8y7RW6U9Q
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 07:55:40 AM
https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/1685252836592869376
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on July 29, 2023, 07:37:53 AMAnyone get eyes on Eric Gray? I assume he's not practicing with the 1s at all.

There has been little running early in camp, and Gray has been down the depth chart.  I did notice he made one short reception yesterday, which by my reckoning was his first
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: DaveBrown74 on July 29, 2023, 07:57:57 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 07:56:47 AMThere has been little running early in camp, and Gray has been down the depth chart.  I did notice he made one short reception yesterday, which by my reckoning was his first

Makes sense. Kind of hard to practice running in a meaningful way with no hitting allowed.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Trench on July 29, 2023, 09:45:21 AM
I'm curious whether or not Bellinger is feeding off Waller in terms of are we seeing marked improvement on Bellinger routes and pass catching (which was already pretty good)
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Ed Vette on July 29, 2023, 10:07:29 AM
Quote from: Trench on July 29, 2023, 09:45:21 AMI'm curious whether or not Bellinger is feeding off Waller in terms of are we seeing marked improvement on Bellinger routes and pass catching (which was already pretty good)
Bellinger was good at finding the soft spot in zone coverage. Right now I've seen mostly Man Coverage. @MightyGiants do you agree there was not much zone?
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on July 29, 2023, 10:07:29 AMBellinger was good at finding the soft spot in zone coverage. Right now I've seen mostly Man Coverage. @MightyGiants do you agree there was not much zone?

I would agree, it's mostly been M2M.  That said, Bellinger has been doing okay for himself.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Philosophers on July 29, 2023, 12:53:28 PM
Rich - BFW has all this speed and size.  Seems like folks are not seeing it.  Do you think he runs lazy or do you think his mind does not know what yet to do so that is holding him back or is it something else?
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on July 29, 2023, 12:53:28 PMRich - BFW has all this speed and size.  Seems like folks are not seeing it.  Do you think he runs lazy or do you think his mind does not know what yet to do so that is holding him back or is it something else?

Joe,

I really don't know.  Some guys simply test better than they play and I fear BFW may be one of those players
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Trench on July 29, 2023, 01:24:44 PM
Who is BFW
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: Trench on July 29, 2023, 01:24:44 PMWho is BFW

Bryce Ford-Wheaton
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Trench on July 29, 2023, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 02:04:39 PMBryce Ford-Wheaton

Do we think he will be a significant player?
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: MightyGiants on July 29, 2023, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: Trench on July 29, 2023, 03:58:07 PMDo we think he will be a significant player?

Not based on what I have seen in camp so far.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: PSUBeirut on July 29, 2023, 06:09:38 PM
I've not seen anything at all written about Crowder- is he there?  Practicing?  Hurt?  Or maybe I've just not looked hard enough.  I've been interested to see how he'd look and if he was back to full health.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: Dgoodmantrublu on July 29, 2023, 06:48:50 PM
He's on the Non football injury list. Working on the side.

Quote from: PSUBeirut on July 29, 2023, 06:09:38 PMI've not seen anything at all written about Crowder- is he there?  Practicing?  Hurt?  Or maybe I've just not looked hard enough.  I've been interested to see how he'd look and if he was back to full health.
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: PSUBeirut on July 29, 2023, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on July 29, 2023, 06:48:50 PMHe's on the Non football injury list. Working on the side.


Gotcha- makes sense.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Day 3 Camp Report
Post by: y_so_blu on July 30, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
Awesome content posted here from training camp so far. I couldn't be happier unless I was there myself.