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Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 11:08:26 PMone must not forget Tommy got thrown to the beast with little preparation

he kook the opportunity and beat Philly, his throws along the boundaries are world class

he keeps his head together and inspires the offense and never panics

Brown and Id dare say Lock do not posses this kind of polish and confidence...sorry but the Jersey Tomato is the best of the lot by far.  I think Schoen knows this too

Will dump Brown at ist opportuity, disregard Lock and promote Tommy who has gotten lots of reps running the practice teaming will be ready when called

I admire your tenacity, if not your judgement.

Oh, by the way, who is Brown?

one must not forget Tommy got thrown to the beast with little preparation

he kook the opportunity and beat Philly, his throws along the boundaries are world class

he keeps his head together and inspires the offense and never panics

Brown and Id dare say Lock do not posses this kind of polish and confidence...sorry but the Jersey Tomato is the best of the lot by far.  I think Schoen knows this too

Will dump Brown at ist opportuity, disregard Lock and promote Tommy who has gotten lots of reps running the practice teaming will be ready when called

No.  I don't believe that the way to build an OL is to just keep throwing very high draft picks at it.  Someone (I think it was Rich) posted a chart that showed the Giants, far and away, have spent the most draft capital on the OL.  And got the league's worst OL for their trouble.

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 04:14:20 PMI think it's pointless to judge either Lock or DJ right now.

Lock has been in the NFL for four years (28 games), and Daniel Jones has been the Giants starting QB for the last five seasons.

When would there be a point in judging them?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 09:16:58 PMHe only threw the ball 2 times beyond 20 yards the first 14 weeks of his best ever season in 2022.

Jones started 6 games in 2023, Devito started 6 and Taylor started 5 games.

Jones 6 Games started 33 10+ yards, 9 20+ yards, 1 40+ yard

Devito 6 games started 37 10+ yards, 16 20+ yards, 2 40+ yard

Taylor 5 games started 45 10+ yards, 19 20+ yards 4 40+ yard

For reference
Dak had 179 10+ and 62 20+ yards
Purdy had 167 10+ 72 20+ yards
Mayfield had 145 10+ and 60 20+ yard

So even if you gave Jones an extra game he'd still only average 27 which is nothing by comparison.

Jones yard per attempt was 5.7 while Devitos was 6.2, and Taylor's 7.5

For reference

Nick Muellen started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 8.8 he also had 16 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.

Easton Stick started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 6.0 and he had 3 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.

Clearly shows he has a deep ball problem and you can see in the same time frame both Taylor and Devito threw it deep more and bad back ups in the NFL threw it significantly deeper in 1 less game than Jones.

While I appreciate all of this data, it completely misses my point.

The most important question: "Why?"

It's easy to want to give Neal extra rope in May. I'm telling you right now, if he starts at RT in week one and he's a total disaster like he has been to this point, nobody in this forum or in this fanbase is going to want him there in week two when we have a totally respectable RT in Eleumenor.

Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 05:17:45 PMI'm not sure I buy into this whole "Jones is scared to throw deep" narrative. 

He only threw the ball 2 times beyond 20 yards the first 14 weeks of his best ever season in 2022.

Jones started 6 games in 2023, Devito started 6 and Taylor started 5 games.

Jones 6 Games started 33 10+ yards, 9 20+ yards, 1 40+ yard

Devito 6 games started 37 10+ yards, 16 20+ yards, 2 40+ yard

Taylor 5 games started 45 10+ yards, 19 20+ yards 4 40+ yard

For reference
Dak had 179 10+ and 62 20+ yards
Purdy had 167 10+ 72 20+ yards
Mayfield had 145 10+ and 60 20+ yard

So even if you gave Jones an extra game he'd still only average 27 which is nothing by comparison.

Jones yard per attempt was 5.7 while Devitos was 6.2, and Taylor's 7.5

For reference

Nick Muellen started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 8.8 he also had 16 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.

Easton Stick started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 6.0 and he had 3 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.

Clearly shows he has a deep ball problem and you can see in the same time frame both Taylor and Devito threw it deep more and bad back ups in the NFL threw it significantly deeper in 1 less game than Jones.

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I'd make sure Neal had to play against someone decent. 

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