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Title: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 01:10:51 PM
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Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: londonblue on April 18, 2024, 01:19:53 PM
That is what comes from our roster having more holes than a lace curtain.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on April 18, 2024, 01:25:28 PM
Still can't see anything other than WR or QB, personally.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: ozzie on April 18, 2024, 01:32:12 PM
I personally love the "unknown" that is the Giants draft plans at this point in time.
Whether it's because they have too many holes to fill or anything else, we've finally gotten rid of multiple regimes telegraphing their intentions to everyone, just to be outmaneuvered on draft day.
I believe we finally have a competent front office.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:00:58 PM
Patriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: LennG on April 18, 2024, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

I'm not doubting you but the way I see it, the Pats need a QB in the worst way.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: LennG on April 18, 2024, 02:17:17 PMI'm not doubting you but the way I see it, the Pats need a QB in the worst way.
Their GM Wolfe said they were wide open either yesterday or today. Their issue is having zero talent anywhere really. So they need even more than the Giants need.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:19:13 PMTheir GM Wolfe said they were wide open either yesterday or today. Their issue is having zero talent anywhere really. So they need even more than the Giants need.
The Pats will be in a Bryce Young situation if they take a QB. Whoever he is, he will get battered. They have nothing.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: Rosehill Jimmy on April 18, 2024, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

Assuming the team moving up to 3 takes a QB, that means they'll be one left and 2 selections before us. In such a scenario I think it's more likely someone tries to grab QB 4 at the two slots before us. But who knows...all will be revealed in a week
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: AZGiantFan on April 18, 2024, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

How so?  That Pats are widely expected to pick a QB.  If they trade down, their trade partner will be widely expected to pick a QB.  How does that change the likelihood that one of the top 4 falls in our lap?
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: AZGiantFan on April 18, 2024, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 02:31:39 PMThe Pats will be in a Bryce Young situation if they take a QB. Whoever he is, he will get battered. They have nothing.


Kind of like the Giants.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 04:43:41 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 18, 2024, 04:24:48 PMKind of like the Giants.
The QB won't start for the Giants in 2024, so no, nothing like the mess Young was put in.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 04:43:41 PMThe QB won't start for the Giants in 2024, so no, nothing like the mess Young was put in.
And 2024 will be rough whether the draft a QB or not. I'm looking at 2025
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: Ed Vette on April 19, 2024, 07:26:44 AM
The intangible here is the line of building a team and at the same time rejuvenating a disappointed and disgusted fan base. The easiest way to do the later is to draft a new Franchise QB if the right one is within reach. If you can't do that, or it puts the team in a hole for an extended period of time, then high profile talent at key positions will keep the fans in their seats. This is a business with a short window for the decision makers.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: katkavage on April 19, 2024, 07:36:23 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 19, 2024, 07:26:44 AMThe intangible here is the line of building a team and at the same time rejuvenating a disappointed and disgusted fan base. The easiest way to do the later is to draft a new Franchise QB if the right one is within reach. If you can't do that, or it puts the team in a hole for an extended period of time, then high profile talent at key positions will keep the fans in their seats. This is a business with a short window for the decision makers.
Yes I agree with this to an extent. The window is short. But if the high profile talent is wasted and the results are still sub par, the fans in the seats will get very antsy. That is why this year's draft is probably the most compelling for the Giants than any in memory. Though I think what they have to do is clear cut, it really isn't. There are so many factors to consider. But again, as I said above, I am not thinking 2024, but beyond that. I don't think anyone can realistically think the Giants can suddenly be a power next season.
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: kartanoman on April 19, 2024, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: katkavage on April 19, 2024, 07:36:23 AMYes I agree with this to an extent. The window is short. But if the high profile talent is wasted and the results are still sub par, the fans in the seats will get very antsy. That is why this year's draft is probably the most compelling for the Giants than any in memory. Though I think what they have to do is clear cut, it really isn't. There are so many factors to consider. But again, as I said above, I am not thinking 2024, but beyond that. I don't think anyone can realistically think the Giants can suddenly be a power next season.

There is absolutely zero expectation of the Giants becoming a powerhouse next season. Competitive, perhaps, but certainly not a power house. Close the gap with Dallas and Philly and the season will be successful.

Peace!
Title: Re: Are the Giants the most 'who the hell knows?' team in this draft?
Post by: Ed Vette on April 19, 2024, 09:31:15 AM
Quote from: katkavage on April 19, 2024, 07:36:23 AMYes I agree with this to an extent. The window is short. But if the high profile talent is wasted and the results are still sub par, the fans in the seats will get very antsy. That is why this year's draft is probably the most compelling for the Giants than any in memory. Though I think what they have to do is clear cut, it really isn't. There are so many factors to consider. But again, as I said above, I am not thinking 2024, but beyond that. I don't think anyone can realistically think the Giants can suddenly be a power next season.
In 2004 the Drafting of Eli Manning rejuvenated the fan base because it was a fresh beginning after a very disappointing 2003. 2002 ended in much promise and those years are somewhat similar to today. I would expect a segment will be angry for a couple of years if the Giants have to trade away a lot to move up.

I can see if MHJ fell to the Giants that there would be some degree of optimism. We have fans here who would be very happy if that happened. The Cherry might be moving up for Nix from the second round. I would hope it wouldn't be a Mike Cherry.