Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Painter on Today at 07:03:39 PMYeah, sure! Aside from the fact that at this point, and for who knows when it might be otherwise, all such speculation is bootless. Is that not something we might at least wish to acknowledge out of a sense of propriety? Are there not more sensible rabbit holes for us to go spelunking? Good gosh! 

Cheers!

Call it as you wish, but I'm following this draft class that many pundits have crapped upon or hyped. It's the most interesting Draft class since 2004. You know where my chips are placed.

I like Carl Banks and I respect him, Bob Papa too. However, no employee of the NYG's should be criticizing the fan base on who they support or don't support and who they feel deserves criticism or praise. That would include not only the players but the Coaches, GM, Scouts and Owners.

That said, anyone who wants the Giants to lose any game or for rooting against a player, should examine their own priorities. I don't work for the Giants so as a fan I can say that blaming Tommy DeVito for winning meaningless games doesn't understand the mentality that is coached into players to leave nothing on the field and how every win is meaningful. Teams that tank the season have no respect for their players or the fans who spend hard earned money and their valuable time to support the team. When you tell players that this game is not important, you've killed the team. Fans that put that out are more disrespectful than anyone who may be angry or disappointed that a player of suboptimal performance is supported by Management.

Is the goal of Carl and Bob to show the door to disgruntled fans or to correct their behavior? The optics of those remarks are quite poor. Perhaps a better fan base would be the Casual fan or the bandwagon jumpers that other teams have as their base. Resulting in empty seats and abandoned seat licenses.

There's a difference in the Twitter Moron looking for attention with no consequences and the 24/7/365 fan who comes to discuss football and the NYG's. Providing material to discredit those fans at every opportunity is poor form.

Quote from: y_so_blu on Today at 12:41:35 PMI was wondering the same thing. Checked on Fanatics yesterday... alas, no Century Red gear yet.

(They DO have gear with that awesome 100 Seasons logo so I snapped up a t-shirt.)

I have the Cap coming.

Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 10:26:59 AMIf DJ falters, do you think the Giants see Lock as his heir replacement so a rookie QB was never really an option?

For this year, yes. Next year they may choose to go to the FA Market again based on Lock's performance. Unless they get one of the top three picks in the draft. I can see them interested in Cousins.

Quote from: Painter on Today at 10:12:34 AMWe are ready to make comparisons and draw conclusions based on a couple of days of Rookie Minicamp? Say it ain't so. Pleeease!

Cheers!

The article is. We can go back to the DJ Tug Of War.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 16, 2024, 04:56:53 PMAnother testimonial blow job that the rich elites do for each other. I've attended many of those in a former life. I actually don't hate Dislike this man like you all some of you do. I may check it out.

Quote from: T200 on Today at 08:33:11 AM   

Ed, if the Giants win both games they wear these unis, I'm getting you one! 

Tim, I won't wear it. They look like a 12-year-old girl's pajamas. I would need to lose a "kiss your ass in Macy's window" type bet to wear it. lol

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 09:16:57 AMActually, no one except Schoen knows what was offered or even how seriously he was...or if there was really an offer ever made in the first place. I've read dozens of reports, and they are all built on conjecture followed by wild-ass guesses. The actual "offer" is sheer speculation and nothing more. But now it's NFL Gospel, built upon pundits quoting other pundits quoting "insiders" (there were no leaks, LOL), that the Giants wanted Maye, and were willing to mortgage the farm to get him. Schoen might have been serious, might have been gauging the Patriots' real interest, or a complete ruse to throw other teams off their trail...who knows? No one except Schoen and the Patriots' Eliot Wolf. But I expect to hear for the next few years that the Giants wanted Maye...yet we'll never know unless Schoen retires and decides to share his strategy going into the 2024 draft

I also read (prior to the draft), that Maye's stock had been falling, perhaps even to the back end of round one. Then within a week of the draft, his stock went back up  I also read that he was Daniel Jones 2.0. I also read that his talent did not match his hype, etc., etc. But I guess it makes sense that fans (hoping for a new QB project) believe that Schoen wasn't interested in a top WR when he could have gotten a QB to set us back several years. Personally, I hope Maye succeeds (unless playing the Giants), and maybe he will. I'm just glad we're not the ones with our fingers crossed, hoping that Maye is so much better than DJ that we have visions of super bowls dancing in our heads

There were reports that he only offered next year's First and not this year's second. To me the fact that he had JJ McCarthy fall to him and he didn't draft him or trade down, shows me they had no intention of drafting a QB where they sat. JJ like Maye would have been a the perfect QB to sit and learn for a year. When they signed Lock, they had their backup plan in place. I think if Jones stays healthy, he's their QB through 2025.

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Quote from: Trench on Today at 01:05:18 AMInteresting regarding Maye as it pertains to our own scouting dept which wanted to give up the ship for the guy. Obviously it's week one and time will tell. Interesting however

They all knew he needed to sit a spell and work on his mechanics and skills to transition to the next level.

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"He (Nix) had two or three down-the-field throws today. It's almost like watching a good golfer. Sometimes when you watch his game over two years, there's a patience to how he plays. The ball comes out, and—I don't want to use the term 'boring,' that's not the right term, but [he makes] pretty good decisions. With each play, the efficiency of how he's operating, and all of that."

"Former Denver Broncos head coach Vic Fangio is a big baseball fan, and he pulled out a baseball analogy during Drew Lock's rookie training camp to paint a picture of where Lock was at when he was in his first NFL camp coming out of Missouri:

"I don't think he's far along being a ready NFL quarterback as he could have been. That's what I mean when he's got to get ready. He's not a quarterback yet. He's a hard throwing pitcher that doesn't know how to pitch yet, so the faster he gets that the better off he'll be and we'll be."

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/sean-payton-comments-on-bo-nix-reveal-just-how-bad-drew-lock-was-for-broncos-01hy12zbanka

Meanwhile, early reports out of NE on Drake Maye, are not glowing. He's got a lot of work to do.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 16, 2024, 03:47:03 PMCan you buy them yet?

Really, why?

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Another testimonial blow job that the rich elites do for each other. I've attended many of those in a former life. I actually don't hate this man like you all do. I may check it out.