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Big Blue Huddle / Would YOU have preferred Joe A...
Last post by brownelvis54 - Today at 04:42:10 PM
Before anyone here post " the draft is already done" I just want an opinion on what you think. Both men are there at 6...who would you have preferred?


I have seen several reports that Joe Schoen # 1 pick in the draft was Joe Alt. It is said he was sending signals around the league that a QB was in play for the Giants. If a team that wanted a QB would have traded up with a team in the top 5, that in turn would help out chances of Alt slipping to pick 6. Smart way of thinking IMO.


As we all know, no trades were done. I myself didn't se the Chargers taking Alt at 5


For me. I like the Nabers pick. And if I was choosing at 6 I would have taken Nabers at 6 too.

Some might say this was a deep WR draft class and while true, after the top 3 WRs in this draft, the talent wasn't the same. Sure you might get a stud in round 2, Nabers talent cannot be denied. I have seen some that felt Nabers was a better WR than Harrison Jr and regardless of who you thought was better, just the fact they were neck and neck in some conversations speaks volumes about his God given talent.


This draft was also fairly deep as it pertains to the offensive line too. I am in the camp of " it's not easy switching from Left Tackle to Right Tackle". Joe Alt is a stud, but he is a stud at Left Tackle. To assume he would transition to Right tackle with ease is not a given.

For me I would prefer to draft a kid that for the most part played Soley at Right Tackle for the majority of his time in college.


I think Joe got it right, but it makes me wonder...what would he have done in both players were there at 6


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new-york-giants/news/new-york-giants-nfl-draft-joe-alt-insider/a0f604ad18cc0b1a1ad6496d



#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Bucky and Jeremiah rank NY...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 04:17:28 PM
I hate to say it but Philly lost both a very good OC and DC the year before . Both were so good that the NFL teams hired them as their Head Coaches. Well guess what? That Roseman once again went for the gusto and brought in Fangio and Kellen Moore. He did a phenomenal job in not sticking with two guys that weren't performing but quickly pivoted two two proven coordinators with strong track records.
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: I have been studying Drew ...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 04:14:20 PM
I think it's pointless to judge either Lock or DJ right now. I want to see what both look like with a better coached OL that is likely not coming close to giving up a historic 85 sacks and a WR core that now finally has what many think will be an elite WR1.
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Great discussion with Aman...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 04:11:19 PM
Too much muscle in a violent and sudden change of direction sport is not always a good thing. Aaron Wellman coming back hopefully will help with this faulty philosophy.
#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Analytics guy not happy wi...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 04:08:04 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:59:48 AMKevin Cole

@Unexpected_Pts newsletter/pod. Previously Data Scientist @PFF, Director of Data & Analytics @RotoGrinders
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https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1786054520390266961

GM's generally shouldn't draft the lower impact positions top of round 1 (unless they have a HOF level grade and their 'greatness' transcends the lower impact of the position). However, once you get to round 2 and 35-40 picks in and you find a Kenny Phillips or a Xavier McKinney or a Chris Snee do you pass on them then too when they have a 10-year high level starter or multiple pro-bowls written all over them?


Secondly, the no-trades argument when Schoen has both traded up and traded down in the two drafts before AND it was quite evident they were heavily involved in trying to trade up for a QB in this one with an absolutely elite grade in Maye.

His argument is weak and seems like he is 'fishing ' to disparage Scheon and the Giants for click bait.
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: "Great receivers don't sav...
Last post by Uncle Mickey - Today at 03:58:42 PM
The 2nd part of Marc's quote should have been: 'But they certainly allow good QBs to elevate their production.'
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Great discussion with Aman...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 03:07:12 PMSimilar with Bellinger.

I had forgotten about his gun show.   
#8
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Great discussion with Aman...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:02:51 PMI got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked.  Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate

Similar with Bellinger.
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Analytics guy not happy wi...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on Today at 12:42:48 PMFar be it for me to defend the Giants, as the last decade plus proves that they have been well behind average as a franchise, but this guy makes zero sense.  Take JJ just because positional value dictates a QB?  Take an OT and move him to ROT just like we did a few years ago?  And what, make trades to shake things up and be more inspiring?  This guy sounds like an idiot.

Sure, I could have made a good case to trade down in the first and get more picks and draft into the WR strength in the draft, but I give the Giants credit for not trading up, or not taking a QB at 6 they did not have convictions on.  They will be judged harshly if they missed on QB, but they didn't do the "easy" thing and pick a QB and try to do something with a player that they didn't believe in.

Not to mention the fact that it takes 2 to tango and we have no way of knowing if there even was the opportunity to trade down.  Just like it is apparent that there really was no way to trade up, since absent a ridiculous offer the Pats weren't trading.