Wondering how this board will feel if we go OL again at 6 and it's an OT.
Very disappointed.
Probably more flabbergasted than disappointed. There are two scenarios where it could happen:
(1) (a) A perfect storm of some combination of the five picks ahead of us taking off the board ALL of the QB's and WR's on whom the Giants believe it's worth spending a high first-round pick, plus (b) the Giants have given up on Neal (adding disappointment in the Neal pick to my being flabbergasted that our luck is THAT BAD).
(2) The Giants are already (as of today) interested in so few (if any) QB's and/or WR's that there's almost no chance one or more of them could fall to the sixth pick (highly unlikely, IMO, because each of the three top WR's seem worth a first-round pick, as do at least one or two of the QB's (so the math is IMO on our side).
Bob
Surprised.
I think it is not a 0% chance.
Maybe some combo of their 2-3 favorite QBs and WRs go and they do not like the rest enough that they go a different position.
Sick to my stomach. Between the options of taking a QB, taking a WR, trading down, or taking an OLman, taking an Olineman is my 7th choice.
My mind is exhausted from too much research and second guessing what the Giants will do. At this point, I am simply waiting to see what happens. I'm a fan, not a professional scout or football coach. I'd like to see us get a stud WR. But I won't bet money on anything that Schoen might do. If he takes an OT, it's because he has a lot more inside information on Neal, than any of us do...and that would be my take on it, should he go in that direction
Another top pick on an OL would feel a bit like the NFL equivalent of throwing good money after bad like a drunken casino punter. A year from now if we are by then certain beyond reasonable doubt that Neal is not ever coming good I can be convinced but not yet.
Fine by me. I know the Giants have thrown a lot of capital and a lot of draft picks at the O-Line, but until they get it right they need to keep trying until they do.
I just brought a brand new tv, I'd hate to have to replace it after a month.
I will never complain about talking OL in round 1.
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 10, 2024, 04:57:14 PMMy mind is exhausted from too much research and second guessing what the Giants will do. At this point, I am simply waiting to see what happens.
Sounds like you're finally setting up your tent in my camp. ;)
I'd be shocked. I don't believe the FO has the appetite for taking a LT in the first round and trying to convert him to a RT again.
I would be unhappy. The Giants already have very good left tackle. After that, the contribution to victory between an elite lineman and a solid lineman does not justify using such a high draft pick, in my opinion.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 11, 2024, 09:34:36 AMI would be unhappy. The Giants already have very good left tackle. After that, the contribution to victory between an elite lineman and a solid lineman does not justify using such a high draft pick, in my opinion.
Rich: Assuming the OL selected would be Joe Alt, who also is very good at guard, I can see a plan to put him next to Andrew Thomas for one year until they make a final decision about Evan Neal. This would give the line five good players who are young enough to stay together for at least five years.
Thomas, Alt, JMS, Runyon, Elueminor(or Neal) (to start the season) with the "worst" possible scenario being that Neal fails and/or Elueminor (29 years of age) can't go forever but they have Alt as a backup.
This is a group that could make some noise in the NFL with a little good luck avoiding the injury bug.
Bob
Quote from: Bob In PA on April 11, 2024, 09:52:42 AMRich: Assuming the OL selected would be Joe Alt, who also is very good at guard, I can see a plan to put him next to Andrew Thomas for one year until the make a final decision about Evan Neal. This would give the line five good players who are young enough to stay together for at least five years.
Thomas, Alt, JMS, Runyon, Elueminor(or Neal) (to start the season) with the "worst" possible scenario being that Neal fails and/or Elueminor (29 years of age) can't go forever but they have Alt as a backup.
This is a group that could make some noise in the NFL with a little good luck avoiding the injury bug.
Bob
Bob,
I can't see Evan Neal getting a full season at OT unless he plays well right from the jump. It's not even certain he'll play OT at all.
If they do put him in at OT, and he is bad again, I think he'll be out pretty quickly. Eleumanor was brought in for that reason.
Yes Neals leash will be short. A game 1 of "Ole" with Edges will see him go straight to the bench.
I don't object to an OL in the 1st. But I would only do it after a trade down to the 9th-15th pick.
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Quote from: jimc on April 11, 2024, 06:24:07 AMI'd be shocked. I don't believe the FO has the appetite for taking a LT in the first round and trying to convert him to a RT again.
I'm right-handed and I broke my right wrist in January. So I am in complete agreement about the difficulties of switching an OT from one side to the other, if you know what I mean. Thank goodness for bidets, but there are no OT bidets for them to fall back on.
The Giants can barely hold up for 3-step drops right now. As Schoen said - it's embarrassing. If the Giants truly want to be a passing team, Joe Alt makes a ton of sense.
You can say that's too much spent on the OL, but if that's the cost to finally being allowed to run your offense, so be it.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 11, 2024, 09:34:36 AMI would be unhappy. The Giants already have very good left tackle. After that, the contribution to victory between an elite lineman and a solid lineman does not justify using such a high draft pick, in my opinion.
your WORST OLineman is more important than your best as the worst is who the D will attack.