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#11
Big Blue Huddle / Re: RIP- Jim Otto
Last post by kartanoman - May 21, 2024, 08:41:31 PM
A man who literally gave his body for the game with no regrets at all. To fully appreciate this, I strongly encourage you to watch the NFL Documentary, "Disposable Heroes."


A true warrior, champion and Hall of Famer.

Rest in peace, aught-oh, and thank you for the great memories.
#12
The Front Porch / Re: 50 of the most unforgettab...
Last post by LennG - May 21, 2024, 08:37:44 PM
 A few more that everyone will remember

'Just the facts ma'am' Joe Friday--Dragnet
'Would you believe"--Maxwell Smart--Get Smart
'You Rang?'---Lurch--The Adams Family
'Nip It in the bud'--Barney Fife-- Andy Griffin Show
'Norm'--Entire cast--Cheers
"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's Superman!"— Adventures of Superman
"This tape will self-destruct in five seconds." — Mission: Impossible
#13
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Reports from OTA 1
Last post by MightyGiants - May 21, 2024, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 21, 2024, 08:07:44 PMOtAs day 2 and I saw Ezeudu was taking snaps at LT and LG and it made me cringe.  I have wanted them to just let the kid learn LG for a full offseason.

 I think @Ed Vette has also been a huge advocate of letting the kid play LG for an entire offseason to see what we actually have and they just wont.

It seems Daboll and the new O-line coach are big fans of versatility, but I (and others) agree with Ed that getting players good at one spot and coordinated is more important.
#14
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT - To what extent will ...
Last post by MightyGiants - May 21, 2024, 08:11:47 PM
Quote from: PSUBeirut on May 21, 2024, 07:12:43 PMI think there's also a good number of folks in the fanbase that are still stung by Barkley essentially being right all along about his worth on the market and pretty much everyone else being wrong.  Even the bitcoin thing he took so much slack for looks to have bounced back in a huge way (if he even stuck with it...who knows). 

And Rich- I have an awful feeling that the hype train is not going to be the only thing to worry about when Barkley comes to town.  My gut having watched him for many years is that he's going to want to ring it up against us because of all the silly fan vitriol that's been spewed his way (and I think the Eagles staff, being the a-holes they are, will absolutely work to accommodate this happening).  So, that's definitely my bigger worry when he comes back to town. 

As for me- no surprises here, I'm hoping he finally gets a creative OC and a solid OL to run behind- and, even if diminished by injury, gets back to that upper echelon of RB that he's worked so hard to be.  Just not against us.

I don't think anyone was right or wrong about the RB market.  Part of the free agent value is tied to the positional strength of the draft, especially for a position like RB.  Last year there was a bumper crop of high end RBs to draft.  This year, not so much.
#15
The Front Porch / Re: Back Surgery or No Back Su...
Last post by LennG - May 21, 2024, 08:09:39 PM

Great news Squib.

Keep up the work effort and it will pay off.

#16
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Reports from OTA 1
Last post by Jclayton92 - May 21, 2024, 08:07:44 PM
OtAs day 2 and I saw Ezeudu was taking snaps at LT and LG and it made me cringe.  I have wanted them to just let the kid learn LG for a full offseason.

 I think @Ed Vette has also been a huge advocate of letting the kid play LG for an entire offseason to see what we actually have and they just wont.
#17
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is Malik Nabers Qb Proof?
Last post by sxdxca38 - May 21, 2024, 07:56:15 PM
Giants O line ranking in 2013 before OBJ was 28th

Eli Mannings numbers that year without an elite #1 WR were

57% 3818 Yards 18 TD 27 Int 69.4 RTG

Giants O line ranking in 2014 after OBJ was 20th

Eli Mannings numbers that year with an elite #1 WR were

63% 4400 Yards 30 TD 14 Int 92.1 RTG

So, they improved the O line and brought in an elite WR, and that had a major impact on Mannings numbers.

I would say Schoen has improved this year's O line a bit, and if Nabers is the real deal, then an elite WR was brought in.

Let's hope Nabers can have the same impact on DJ's career as OBJ had on Eli Mannings.

But only time will tell.

We will have to see how this plays out.
#18
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is Malik Nabers Qb Proof?
Last post by Doc16LT56 - May 21, 2024, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:23:59 PMSaying the OL played poorly during OBJ's 3 glory years is distorting the team's history. 

One man's canned answers is another man's documented facts.
No it's your odd obsession to drive home the same point about the OL you make in countless threads. You don't like the OL, we get it.

The offense was terrible before OBJ arrived and then they were top-10 in passing. Everyone watching understood it was OBJ who transformed the offense. You are rewriting history to suggest he was plugged into anything other than a dysfunctional situation.
#19
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is Malik Nabers Qb Proof?
Last post by Doc16LT56 - May 21, 2024, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 21, 2024, 07:22:59 PMPer PFF, the line was comfortably below average (ie bad) in each of Beckham's biggest three years. Phrase it how you like, but it was not good. The point was that an elite receiver can still produce at a high level behind a not good O line, depending on other circumstances. I never made a precise equation to the current line. You inferred that for some reason, even though I clearly said it has been varying degrees of bad since 2012, a statement I firmly stand by.


https://www.pff.com/news/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-this-season

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season
They literally drafted OBJ because the owner said the offense is broken.
#20
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is Malik Nabers Qb Proof?
Last post by AZGiantFan - May 21, 2024, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 21, 2024, 07:17:58 PMYour obsessive agenda with distorting this team's history aside, this is a thread about Nabers' ability to perform despite the QB quality. It's not a referendum on whether the OL will play as poorly or any better than last season.

They brought in a couple of vets and are hoping for good health from Thomas and growth from JMS. The assumption is the OL will be somewhat better. The question is how Nabers will perform assuming the current QBs play below par. Is he QB proof?

Step away from your canned answers and think about the thread's premise for once.

Saying the OL played poorly during OBJ's 3 glory years is distorting the team's history. 

One man's canned answers is another man's documented facts.