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Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 29, 2024, 03:06:57 PMI thought that's what Daboll was referring to with his comment about Wink's "read and react defense" compared to the more aggressive style of Bowen. 

People have differing views of Wink's defense's efficacy, but I have not seen anyone suggest Wink was a DC who favored read and react.   I don't use the term myself, but it's my understanding that read and react was usually referring to defenses that play a lot of zone and off-man coverage.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 29, 2024, 03:02:27 PMNot surprised by no OL in the draft given the amount of past draft capital and current FA signings.

I was somewhat surprised by no DT being taken.  Just assume that the guys they liked were picked prior to the rounds they had them slotted.  Curious what some of the DTs outside of Lawrence will look like in a 1-gap system. 

Matt,

I don't believe Wink played a two-gap system

Quote from: Painter on April 29, 2024, 02:21:12 PMNeither can it help, so why bother with such overweening nonsense which serves no purpose for anyone other than for the supposed special purpose messenger. Can't we do better than waste time with such stuff even if time wasting is about all we can do presently?

Cheers!

Larry,

Football is entertainment.   Talking about football is entertainment.  Let us not pretend we are ending world hunger or curing cancer here.   We are just talking football with fellow knowledgeable fans. 

This is one of the better one-on-one sports interviews I have heard.  You get a real sense of Tracy, the person.

https://x.com/Doug_Analytics/status/1785005287708979604

https://x.com/TheGiantsWire/status/1784982410712461349

Quote from: LennG on April 29, 2024, 12:23:38 PMMark Bavaro is my second all-time favorite Giant. What I see in this video is something that was a staple in the Giants' offense for all the years Simms and Bavaro were there, that deep seam pass up the middle and it always seemed to have worked. I have been crying, begging, and shouting as to why the Giants don't use that play today.

https://x.com/BigBlueVCR/status/1784749445436866978

Quote from: LennG on April 29, 2024, 12:19:28 PMThree people to replace one, really doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Barkley did it all and now we have 3 others to replace him.

The problem with an all-in-one RB is what happens when they get hurt (which Barkley did frequently).

Quote from: LennG on April 29, 2024, 12:16:05 PMI was going to start another thread on a thought I had, but let's run it hear.

Many people have said and it is true, that Eli started out very poorly also. Thinking, about what really helped Eli become a much better QB, Plax and his ability to catch all the misguided passes that Eli threw to him. I'm sure there were many, but mostly I remember Plax using all his 6'whatever frame and arms to haul in many passes that were overthrown, underthrown, etc. Could Nabers be the Palx for Jones?
Most know and I won't deny it, I would like anyone other than Jones to be our QB, but he is our QB and I would never root for him to fail. If Nabers can do for Jones what Palx did for Eli, maybe there is hope out there.

Reasoned thoughts, Len. Remember that the book on Josh Allen was still undetermined until the Bills added Diggs.

Quote from: TDToomer on April 29, 2024, 11:57:11 AMIf it was Love who broke his hand during a bye week you could just reverse their names in what you wrote. Love would have become the persona non grata no one wanted to re-sign, and not McKinney. Giants fans turn on their own so quickly.

Can you give me an example where McKinney demonstrated leadership?

Quote from: TDToomer on April 29, 2024, 11:51:24 AMI am not as hung up on the money aspect as others here. I just think 35 is ancient for non kicker/punters/QBs and that role can be filled by a guy still in his 20's.

Your comments got me to go to PFF and look up his grades.  Joseph's grades in the past two seasons with Philly and Buffalo were not good-  59.1 and 43.3 respectively

 

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Some quotes I had gathered about Malik Nabers before the draft:

• From a scout: "Nabers is the interesting one (among the top 3 WR) because he's so strong after the catch and he's so fast and so explosive. He's a dog that elevates your room. He's like Stefon Diggs."

• From an assistant coach: "Nabers is the most explosive (of the top 3 WR), but a little bit more raw. Harrison and Odunze are polished, but they're not like Odell and will catch a slant and run for 80. But they'll both be really good and play a long time. Nabers could be like Odell early. Throw him a hitch or a slant and he's gone. He's got that type of talent."

• From an NFL exec on any character concerns: "He has (an) edge, but nothing glaring. I think he plays that way, too."
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Quote from: Trench on April 29, 2024, 11:42:30 AMHe was a huge loss to the defense and to the leadership

I think Love was more of a leader than McKinney.  We always hear about McKinney's leadership, yet I have never witnessed any direct indication that McKinney was a true leader.

Quote from: TDToomer on April 29, 2024, 11:26:00 AMWhy are our standards so low?

The Giants have a front 4 of Dex, Thibs, Burns, and Nacho.  They need a rotational piece at DT and how much do you want to spend on the D-line in terms of salary and picks?

https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1784962670803751130