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#1322
Thought it might have a certain nostalgia value, as well as it's chance for those that only heard of it, to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090pEcveMIE
#1323
Thanks to Afan we now have an easy reference list:

http://giantsfans.net/bbhers.doc


With so many new people, it seemed like a good idea for people to get to know one another.   Here is a list of questions, answer the ones you would like to answer.

1)  What part of the Country do you live in?

2)  How long have you been a Giants fan?

3)  What do you do for a living?

4) Anything else you would like to mention about yourself?

Also if you modify your profile (the profile button on the top) and put in your date of birth, your birthday will appear on the board's calendar.

#1324
Giants History / This day in NFL history
August 28, 2007, 09:33:39 AM
NFL History   August 28, 1955
The sudden-death overtime rule was used for the first time in a preseason game between the Rams and Giants at Portland, Oregon. The Rams won 23-17 three minutes into OT as quarterback Norm van Brocklin guided a 70-yard scoring drive
#1325
He has this trip down memory lane (at least some people's memories) in his latest online offering.

In 1961, the Giants were being led by a new head coach, Allie Sherman. They had a great season, led as they were by a newly-obtained veteran quarterback named Y.A. Tittle and a newly-obtained veteran wide receiver, Del Shofner.

The running game was ordinary at best, featuring aging Alex Webster, younger but equally plodding Phil King and a little-used future star named Joe Morrison.

The Giants approached the final game of the season with a 10-3 record (they only played 14 games in those years), tied with the Philadelphia Eagles, a situation that seems to have always been in place, you know?

The nightmare was that "Big Red" (Webster) and "The Chief" (King) both came up hurt for the final game against the Cleveland Browns in Yankee Stadium. What to do? What to do?

Sherman had to sell his idea to his assistant coaches, but ultimately they agreed. He was going to use the short pass instead of the run; sideline passes, mostly, three and four yards downfield. It didn't matter much if any additional yardage was gained. The completion would set up a second-and-seven, second-and-six, and suddenly the Giants were in a passing mode.

It worked. The game ended in a 7-7 deadlock -- "a tie for Christmas," as one of the local newspapers so cleverly headlined -- while the Eagles lost and finished at 10-4 to the Giants' 10-3-1.

It was on to the NFL championship game, a 37-0 horror show against the Packers in Green Bay, but a championship game nonetheless.


Rest of the article

#1326
Giants History / The 1975 logo
July 16, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Interesting article

Dear Doctor:
I'm a Giants fan and like the game worn helmets as well as the ones you have made up as shown on the GIANTS SECTION OF THE NFL AREA. These bring back great memories, especially Gifford. One of the Giants helmets you don't see much is the 1975 model with the open type of lettering. It seems that it was used and then discarded right away. Is there any kind of reason for that or story about it? I like your Larry Csonka helmet and story too. Thanks.
Nathan, Long Island



Dear Nathan,
The New York Giants are one of the NFL's most popular teams and the sale of their apparel and related items confirms this fact. Giants fans used to be known as "button down" conservative types in the 1950's and 1960's primarily because the businesses in the New York metropolitan area were among the first in the nation to realize the value of and understand the business producing impact of providing NFL game tickets to corporate partners. Giants fans took a beating in the media for not caring as the sold out Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium were often populated not by the season ticket holders each game, but a continuously changing sea of businessmen who utilized their tickets for business purposes rather than the wholehearted support of their home team. "Madison Avenue" as the advertising business in Manhattan was called, was the first to utilize football players in advertising campaigns and members of the Giants were the obvious first choice picks. Frank Gifford was the first or certainly one of the first NFL players who made an equivalent income from his modeling career, relative to his NFL salary. Even with truth in the above statement, Giants fans are as vociferous and loyal as any other in the league and they have had great teams and great players to cheer for including the members of the Charlie Connerly-Y.A. Tittle-Frank Gifford-Sam Huff era that produced many division and NFL/World Championships and many Pro Football Hall Of Fame Players. Unfortunately, the team hit a tough patch from the mid-sixties to the early 1980's. Study of the Giants records indicate that many of those years produced .500 ball or finishing records in that area but relative to the championship years and the expectations of their fans, the perception was that the Giants were not doing well at all.

Former Giants great and Pro Football Hall Of Fame member Andy Robustelli had been extremely successful as a Connecticut businessman following his playing career. He had started a number of business ventures prior to the conclusion of his career and had an excellent track record. Giants owner Wellington Mara asked Robustelli to come on board to try and resurrect the structure of the franchise in December of 1973 following a terrible Giants season that found them with a 2-11-1 record. Fan discord was enhanced by the necessity of playing the final five of seven home games in New Haven, CT at the Yale Bowl after vacating Yankee Stadium. Robustelli, as Director Of Operations began to dismantle and then rebuild the team with new head coach Bill Arnsparger but they stumbled to a 2-12 1974 record. With projected occupancy of the new Giants Stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands not expected until the 1976 season, the Giants were scheduled to play all of their 1975 home games at the Jets' home field, Shea Stadium. Feeling that an entire "new look" was necessary, a brand new practice facility was constructed at Pace College and this was followed by new uniforms. As Robustelli said, "Next came the uniforms, beginning with the helmet that for years had the familiar 'NY' on the side. The Giants needed to be a little more modern in their look without departing entirely from the idea that we still were the New York Giants...we solicited plenty of designs before settling on the modernized version of 'NY' which we used when we played in Shea Stadium. Of course, the 'GIANTS' logo became standard when we moved into Giants Stadium in New Jersey in 1976."








Robustelli also added two one-inch white flanking stripes to augment the standard one-inch red center stripe that had adorned the Giants' navy blue helmet for so long. The reaction of the media and fans wasn't quite what was expected. Unfortunately the fans truly disliked the new-look "NY" logo and if the move to the New Jersey stadium had not been planned, with the dissolution of any logo associated directly with New York or New York City, it probably would not have been more than a one-year decal so great was the fans' negative reaction. The white flanking stripes remained and the new logo that was introduced when the move to the Meadowlands occurred was a long lasting one. The stylized "GIANTS" logo was used for years until the "NY" was reintroduced in 2000. A terrific question that allowed us to wind down memory lane for a while, thank you.
Truly yours,
Dr. Del Rye

http://www.helmethut.com/070907.html
#1327
The NFL channel had a special on this.  I understand the top 3 were-

1)  the 80s Saints
2) Pittsburg's Steel curtain of the 70s
3) The Giants with LT, Banks, Carson and Reasons

Maybe I am a homer, but I think that the Giants group is the best in history.  LT is the greatest LB, ever to play the game, and adding Carson and Banks makes them unbeatable.
#1328
Giants History / 1986 Giants
July 04, 2007, 09:39:00 AM
Just watched the NFL network's special on the 1986 NY Giants (with narration from Sims, Taylor and Parcells)-  Some of the highlights and facts

It was 30 years since they had won a championship at that point

Parcells started as Taylor's LB coach

Taylor had great respect for Parcells, but little respect for Simms (at the time)

They talked about the 83 season where Parcells picked Brunner over Simms.  Simss wanted to be traded after being benched.  The move was prompted by three injury marred seasons by Simms.

After the disaster of 83, they replaced half the roster (I remember many of those jetisoned, were injury prone).

They relived Landetta's wiff of the 85 play off game against the Bears (Perhaps the only time I ever saw a punter miss the ball)

86 was when Taylor's drug problems became public. 

In the loss to the Cowboys, early in the season, Taylor let Hershel Walker run right past him for the score.   Taylor admits to being too tired to stop him.

For those that talk about Coughlin's side line antics, should see and hear the 86 Tuna on the sideline

Taylor ended the season with 20 sacks and league MVP

Against the Saints Bravaro suffered a broken jaw.  He got it wired shut and returned to the game to lead them to victory and never missed a game (even though he was eating through a straw).

In the first half the season they had a dominant defense, strong running game and a terrible passing game.

Simms was actually being booed at home games at mid season

Parcells used to curse out Simms on the sideline

Parcells helped Simms out of his tailspin, by telling him (before the Viking game) to just do it.  Don't be afraid to take chances and be the QB he knows he can be.

It was the 4 and 17 pass completion (Simms to Bobby Johnson in the Viking game) that helped to turn the team into something special


Got to see the great interception and 80 yard TD run by DE Martin in the first Denver game

There was the great Bravaro run in the Monday night SF game.  The Giants were down 17 nothing, and Mark makes one of the great runs after the catch in the history of the game.  He carried tons of guys on his back.

in the last game they had to beat a weak Green Bay.  The were up 24 nothing but Green Bay came back to with in 7 by the half.  At half time Parcells dumped garbage can into the defense in the locker room.  He told the defense they belonged with the rest of the trash.   The team came out like no buddies business.  That garbage can dump partially inspired the gatoraide dunk.

Before the SF playoff game Parcells got on the offensive line.  In their first meeting the Giants had only managed 13 yards on the ground.  Parcells started calling the linemen "club 13".  He got the line so fired up they manhandled the 49ers in that play off game.  That was also the same great game where Jim Burt knocks out Montana and Taylor intercepts the ball for a TD.

The Redskins were the team played for the conference championship.  The winds were whipping at 40 mph. 

Lendetta makes up for the wiff by having a great punting performance in these terrible winds


In the Super Bowl the Giants played poorly in the first half, but were only down by one at the half.  The second half the Giants were on fire.   Simms had the MVP performance and perhaps the greatest game by any SB QB.  He was 23 of 25 with 2 dropped passes.

Simms orginally didn't want to do the Disney promotional spot ( You just won MVP, now what are you going to do?  Go  to Disney Land).  Elway had no problem doing it.

Great to see the Bravaro drop that ends up in McKonkey's hands again

Parcells credits 20 or 30 Giants players as making his career.
#1329
The first coach I remember, as a fan, was Perkins.  I remember being less than happy when he left the Giants to coach Alabama (replacing the great Bear Bryant).

REGULAR SEASON

Coach Years W L T Pct
Robert Folwell 1925 8 4 0 .667
Joe Alexander 1926 8 4 1 .667
Earl Potteiger 1927-28 15 8 3 .635
LeRoy Andrews* 1929-30 24 5 1 .817
Benny Friedman 1930 2 0 0 1.000
Steve Owen 1930-53 153 100 17 .604
Jim Lee Howell 1954-60 53 27 4 .655
Allie Sherman 1961-68 57 51 4 .527
Alex Webster 1969-73 29 40 1 .421
Bill Arnsparger** 1974-76 7 28 0 .200
John McVay 1976-78 14 23 0 .378
Ray Perkins 1979-82 23 34 0 .404
Bill Parcells 1983-90 77 49 1 .610
Ray Handley 1991-92 14 18 0 .438
Dan Reeves 1993-96 31 33 0 .484
Jim Fassel 1997-2003 58 55 1 .513
Tom Coughlin 2004-Present 25 23 0 .521
     


POSTSEASON     

Coach Games W L Pct
Steve Owen 10 2 8 .200
Jim Lee Howell 4 2 2 .500
Allie Sherman 3 0 3 .000
Ray Perkins 2 1 1 .500
Bill Parcells 11 8 3 .727
Dan Reeves 2 1 1 .500
Jim Fassel 5 2 3 .400
Tom Coughlin 2 0 2 .000

*Replaced by Friedman and Owen after 15 games in 1930.
**Replaced by McVay after seven games in 1976.
#1330
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The more difficult way, that allows you to put the photo anywhere-



1)  You start with a picture (either on your computer or on the internet)

2)  Upload the picture to the Misc album if it's not already on the internet

3)  Right click the picture and select properties.  You are going to highlight and copy (either right click copy or control c) the URL -  which looks something like this-

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#1331
BBH Archive / Guidelines for BBH
May 11, 2007, 09:15:36 PM
Welcome to Big Blue Huddle, a place for civilized discussions about the NY Giants and football.  This forum is intended to be a place for respectful and thoughtful conversation, please conduct yourself accordingly.


Wanted to add a few of the BBH values:

1)  BBH values intelligent, informed and insightful discussion of Giants football

2)  BBH is more than just a internet message board, it's a cyber family