Lets talk about the QBs in 2024 draft.

[sooners56]

Figure out a way to draft Caleb Williams, QB position set for a long time.

[TDToomer]

2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 his first 4 years of college his season was cut short due to injury. He's now in year 6 but out of the 6 seasons he's only been healthy for 1 1/2 of those.

Absolute 100% hard pass. It also baffles me how college fans fall head of heals on a guy and crown him the next best thing. How is Stetson Bennett doing with the Rams? Mac Jones may not see contract #2.

[Jclayton92]

Absolute 100% hard pass. It also baffles me how college fans fall head of heals on a guy and crown him the next best thing. How is Stetson Bennett doing with the Rams? Mac Jones may not see contract #2.

I don't know that many thought Bennett or Jones were going to be great. Imo there's a big difference in a great college Qb and great NFL Qb. The two are not always mutually exclusive.

[Dgoodmantrublu]

No one thought Jones and Bennett were going to be great. Most people didn't think Bennett would even get drafted. Mac Jones was always thought of a borderline prospect. These guys aren't even in the same area code as the top prospects in this draft.

[JT39]

Buy these QBs:
Williams
Maye
Daniels
McCarthy

Sell:
Any other Pac 12 QB.
Riley Leonard
Spencer rattler
Dillon Gabriel

Interesting late rounder I have my eye on-
Michael Pratt from Tulane.

[JT39]

Why isn't Penix the #1 prospect?  Serious question.  Only seen him a couple of times and both times were impressive.  The physical talent is apparent. 

Age
Injuries
Reached his potential
Plays awful defenses
His stats against pressure are horrendous
Not mobile
No threat to run.

[Bob In PA]

Many fans seem to be overanalyzing players or prospects in my opinion and drawing conclusions from only a few plays or a few games.  It's about an entire body of work.

Caleb Williams or any prospect will have a bad or great game.  Neither defines him or his game.

Example:  JJ McCarthy will play Penn State next week.  He may light them up or have a crap game.  Neither will define him as a QB but he will either be elevated or thrown to the junk pile by fans here after that game.  I guarantee it.

Phil: IMO it's one thing to say a guy still hasn't shown he's top-of-the-1st-round material.

It's another thing to say a guy is a definite "yes" or "no" at this time.

Regardless, the answer depends about 0% on what we think, though once in a while one or two of us get a difficult decision correct (is it through coincidence? luck? inside-info? general knowledge?.. probably doesn't matter). 

Bob

[uconnjack8]

Age
Injuries
Reached his potential
Plays awful defenses
His stats against pressure are horrendous
Not mobile
No threat to run.

Feels like this "deep" class is thinner than advertised.

[Bob In PA]

Feels like this "deep" class is thinner than advertised.

uconn: You may have read me saying the same thing a few days ago.

Last year at this time we heard how "shallow" the 2023 draft class was and how "deep" the 2024 class would be.

The jury is still out but I'm eagerly awaiting the first round of 2024 to see what actually happens.

Bob

PS. I will say again AT THIS TIME I don't see a potential generational QB (one worth a high first-round pick).

[JT39]

Feels like this "deep" class is thinner than advertised.

Don't get me wrong. He can be a starting QB. I just wouldn't spend a first rounder on him with that many red flags.

There's about 4-8 QBs where you ask 10 GMs their ranking and you'll get 10 different list with no consensus on who's where.

It's a quality draft for QBs. I think the ceiling on a few isn't quite high.

[babywhales]

After the past 11 seasons no draft pick will excite me until they step on the field and actually produce

That is what it has come to regarding the Giants.  

[Jclayton92]

Buy these QBs:
Williams
Maye
Daniels
McCarthy

Sell:
Any other Pac 12 QB.
Riley Leonard
Spencer rattler
Dillon Gabriel

Interesting late rounder I have my eye on-
Michael Pratt from Tulane.

Pratts not coming out he's going to transfer and make a ton playing for whatever playoff team needs a qb next year.

[Bob In PA]

I'd like to KEEP reminding everyone that there are a lot of instances of QB's taken in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds who proved to be top-flight franchise QB's.

Most are in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

There was also at least one who was un-drafted.

Bob

PS. My point? ----> The issue of who truly deserves to go in the top of the 1st round is quite different from the issue of who becomes (or has potential to become) a true franchise QB. That's why the draft is such a crap-shoot.

[bamagiantfan]

So are you guys really gonna do this for the next 6 months? One of us is nuts.

[spiderblue43]

Going to watch JJ McCarthy closely this  week vs.Penn State. Thoughts?