Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 09:31:32 PMhttps://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1783669514040737825

With 6 of the top 12 picks being QBs I can predict that in 2 years this draft will be cited as providing the highest rate of QB busts in NFL history.  LOL

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 09:22:44 PMI'm invested because I'm a fan. It is not a hypothetical. I've sat here for years now listening to ultra pro Jones guys saying the one of the only reasons he stinks is he doesn't have weapons. I'm simply asking those guys if we have enough "weapons".....

No, you've sat there and heard that the primary problem is that they have a cr@p OL.  The weapons issue only really arose when people pointed out that other QBs were productive with bad Olines and it was countered that while their Ols were bad they had more than 1 elite receiver.

But I'm really sorry if my unwillingness to answer a hypothetical question is interfering with you being a fan.

Quote from: killarich on April 25, 2024, 09:15:08 PMWere the Jets really a threat to pick a QB ? Why would Minny do this

Maybe someone was talking with the Jets to jump ahead of Minny.  Or the Jets convinced them there was.

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 09:13:47 PMUnderstood, my question is - is there a chance we will still hear people say Jones needs more weapons?

Why are you so invested in getting an answer to a hypothetical?  Let's see it play out. Heck, with the Giants luck and history Malik could get injured in training camp and never play a 2024 down.

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 09:10:20 PMTo be clear - if our Oline is average will we will still hear "Jones doesn't have enough weapons" is my question?

I reject the premise until I see the OLINE perform with my own eyes.

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 08:55:22 PMOk - to all the Jones or bust guys - can we all finally agree "Daniel Jones has plenty of weapons?"!!!!!!

We don't know anything until we see if the OL improves or Lucy pulls the ball away yet again.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 08:54:40 PMA ton of people like Mccarthy more than Maye. McCarthy has been a top 10 prospect for 2-3 months. Jayden Daniels was a 7th rd pick to start 2023.

To the extent you are correct, especially about Daniels, it kind of makes nonsense of the argument that next year's QB class is poor.  A year in college ball can change things widely.

Are they looking for a trade down?  Minny?

Are you watching NFLN OR ESPN?

Last minute rumors are renowned for their accuracy.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 25, 2024, 04:29:00 PMMany in the past have made the assertion that we have had terrible O line coaches in recent years. There seems to be general optimism about our new O line coach. The O line was much better last year in Vegas than when he took over in 2022. Maybe he'll be able to get more out of some of the players we already have than what we have seen from them in the recent past.

Oh we've had that football pulled out from under us as well.  "This guy's a great OL coach, he'll fix it", and then pfft.

On this issue I'm an honorary Missourian.  Show me.

Quote from: TDToomer on April 25, 2024, 04:47:53 PMI only care about this year. He is still better than any other TE on the roster.

Well that's the point.  We have no evidence that this year he will be able to display that talent.

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 25, 2024, 07:25:40 AMAbsolutely. I've said the same thing. The Giants have a deeply systemic problem at every level when it comes to putting a competent offensive line on the field.

Which makes it puzzling how many seem to be assuming that because the Giants made some moves the Oline will be better.  The Oline is the football that Lucy keeps pulling away from Charlie Brown.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 06:25:40 AMI've been saying it for months now and although I really like Drake Maye, I'll be very happy if the Giants trade down with Minnesota and take Bo Nix.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10118235-daniel-jeremiah-qb-bo-nix-punished-by-nfl-scouts-experts-for-oregons-offense.amp.html

Having just done my ritual Draft Day re-watch, when I saw your thread title I thought it would be about Bo Callahan.  LOL

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 25, 2024, 10:13:30 AMArticle in this morning's NY Post

The opening statement sounds about right..."The NFL should hire an auctioneer to take commissioner Roger Goodell's place on stage this year..." LOL

https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/anything-possible-when-nfl-draft-2024-kicks-off/

Wouldn't it be exciting if the draft was an actual auction?  Teams get bidding points based on prior year's record, and then they auction off the players.  Pre-draft trades would be players for points.