Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 10, 2024, 01:23:18 PMI hope there was no betting in that weight loss competition.We'll find out when we see the iced-out necklace!
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Show posts MenuQuote from: AZGiantFan on May 10, 2024, 01:23:18 PMI hope there was no betting in that weight loss competition.We'll find out when we see the iced-out necklace!
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 08, 2024, 10:40:30 AMTim,I understand your point, Rich.
When the Giants drafted Engram in round one, Reese talked about how he was going to be nearly impossible to cover with that 4.42 speed. Yet, if you look at NFL's Next Gen stats, while Engram is the fastest (or top 3), his separation yardage puts him around 10th among NFL TEs.
That was my issue. Engram was always undersized, and his hands were suspect, but we were sold on the idea that LBs and Safeties (who usually cover TEs) would never stand a chance against him (because of that 4.42 speed).
Here is a link to Next Gen Stats if you are interested.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving/2021/REG/all#average-separation
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 08, 2024, 10:28:11 AMYou are dealing with small numbers at 10 yards so even 0.1 is significant. I hope you appreciate that while Egram's 10 yard split wasn't "bad" by RAS standards, what it is is slower than what one would expect from a 4.42 40 and shows Engram's acceleration wasn't that good, which is why he hasn't played like one would expect a TE with a 4.42 40 to playI don't recall a single fan complaining about Engram's speed when he was here. It was his hands.
Quote from: Bob In PA on May 08, 2024, 06:31:26 AMTim: Right, but my point is... it's not conclusive that they are dissing Jones, or even dissatisfied with Jones.Bob,
Clearly, a high pick is expected to take over eventually, but it's still be Jones' job to lose (this year).
They paid him a lot of money. The only way they can attempt to get their "money's-worth" is to play him.
Bob
Quote from: Bob In PA on May 07, 2024, 09:49:54 PMTim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). BobBob,
Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 07, 2024, 02:36:07 PMAnd yes, the rumors of trading up for Maye are telling. But what does it really say? That they really liked Maye? Yes. But not necessarily that they don't like DJ. Had that been the case, then they would have drafted JJ at 6 or tried to trade down for him, Penix or Nix if they were really low on DJ. I don't think we can call really liking a guy (Maye) an indictment of DJ when they didn't feel the need to draft any of the other 3 first round QBs available.
Quote from: LennG on May 07, 2024, 01:58:43 PMWhy do I never tire of watching that?He needed to make up for that first quarter interception he caused. That was Eli's only blemish in the playoffs that season.
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 07, 2024, 01:43:22 PMSo don't believe Schoen when he says Jones will be the QB this year?
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on May 07, 2024, 12:58:16 PMA lot rides on the season for Jones. Fans tend to think a QB should "take the game over" and become a gun slinging QB, and "make it all happen". The trouble is, the OC makes the calls, not the QB. Jones will do whatever his coach tells him to do as they design the plays based on the defenses he's facing. The last time I remember a QB calling his own plays (before the hike as well as on the fly) was Roger Staubach, who worked so closely with Tom Landry that their minds were like one. Landry let him go and run the team from the field while giving lightly controlled plans...and it worked. It worked because Staubach was athletic, but more importantly, had a very high football IQ that was inate to himJolly,
Jones will never be treated the way Staubach was treated, and he'll march to the step his coaches lay out for him. If he doesn't work out, or gets injured, we'll get to find out what we have in Drew Lock, and I suspect Schoen will be wheeling and dealing to get to the top of the draft for Carson Beck next season. We'll just have to watch the games this season and see what works out. My suspicions are that DJ is on a short rope. I'm rooting for him to excell far beyond the legion of negativity from an impatient fanbase. We shall see
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 06, 2024, 02:25:22 PMThey are definitely not for the weak and thin-skinned!
In this day and age of stronger sensativities, I am surprised that they still have roasts