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The Giants won't go 0-17. They won't go 1-16. They'll go 6-11, 5-12, something like that. Pretty bad but not bad enough to solve the QB problem through the draft.

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How do you play a game without a kicker and then lose to a team who kicks 7 field goals. Just awful. Incompetent.


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Quote from: TDToomer on September 11, 2024, 09:22:16 AMWhere did you get this intel? From what I remember Coughlin was always their #1 choice. Parcells wasn't available as he was already in Dallas.

The four candidates were Lovie Smith, Romeo Crennel, Charlie Weis, and Coughlin. Mara has spoken about him and Accorsi not bneing enthusiastic about Coughlin when they met him, because of his over-the-top personality. Accorsi also didn't think Coughlin was a great game-manager. Coughlin was Wellington Mara's top choice.

Accorsi and John Mara did not want to hire Coughlin in 2004 (or at least he was not their first choice). In the last good thing he did as co-owner, Wellington Mara sort of forced it through. Coughlin was not an Accorshi hire. Accorsi was never a fan. And Coughlin's Super Bowls came in the Reese era.

They have made a lot of big mistakes. But I believe the problems are structural.

1. John Mara seems like a nice guy but he is an unbelievably incompetent "Team President". He's there because he's a co-owner. Anyone else would have been fired from that job 8-9 years ago.

2. Chris Mara also can't be fired from his job despite being demonstrably incompetent over the last 13 years because, like John Mara, he is a co-owner.

3. This means that two incompetent people are ultimate decision-makers on the team, and no one can get rid of them, or hold them to account. The Giants will never be good as long as these two guys are running the show. It was the same when Wellington Mara their very nice-guy dad was in charge. In 1979, there was a rebel in the family (Tim Mara Jr.) who could shake things up and force the NFL to intervene. No such person exists today. The co-owners, the Tisch family, don't know anything about football.

4. Look closely at the Joe Judge hire. Who in their right minds would hire that guy as a head coach. Easily the worst NFL head coach of any team in the last 15 years. He had no resume. All he had was the ability to act like a coach on TV, and that, plus a phone call with Bill Belichik (who only produced NFL head coaching failures in the NFL and failed himself as soon as he didn't have Tom Brady) was enough to hire him. That was after they had hired Ben McAdoo and Pat Shurmur, who weren't much better. A braintrust that makes these hires doesn't know what it's doing, is essentially hopeless.

5. Gettleman. Awful. But Schoen has been here three years now and the Giants are as bad as they've ever been. That's on the current leadership, starting with John and Chris Mara.

6. At the end of this season they will fire Schoen and Daboll. But John and Chris Mara will still be in charge of hiring the new guys and the result won't be much better. If instead of calling Belichik like they do every two years to get his instructions on who to hire as HC (which is what they did with both Judge and Daboll), they just hire Belichik himself to run the team, it will be an unmitigated disaster. This team could be like the Lions were for four decades. Consistently among the worst teams in the NFL, without any chance of success. 

7. They could have gone out and tried to get Jim Harbaugh, he wanted to come. We would be seeing a completely different team (I guarantee you Daniel Jones would not be his QB) and we wouldn't be having this sad conversation. That may have been their biggest mistake. 

I have been clamoring for Jim Harbaugh for years. The Giants could have tried to get him instead of Joe Judge. and again instead of Daboll. But of course the idiots who own and run this team would never have done it. They hate a guy who's different, considered "out there". Reportedly they never even considered him. Stupid. By the way, John Mara is on the record as being against the Coughlin hire in 2004. Luckily he didn't have the final word back then. 

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on September 08, 2024, 04:22:06 PMFlores was really enjoying his revenge game. I often wonder if he would've been the better choice to pair with Schoen.


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His lawsuit wasn't frivolous. He probably knew very well that he was a better candidate than Daboll.


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https://x.com/nfl_dougfarrar/status/1832870040368263517?s=46&t=79Dx6gNjSg7X2AL0lq89RQ


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Brian Flores is really enjoying his revenge here.


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Quote from: AYM on September 08, 2024, 03:31:50 PMIf we lose to the Commanders, I think the bottom falls out and the Panthers might be the only win we get.

And then we still won't have the #1 pick because the Panthers will go 0-17.

Don't sleep on the Bears.


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The fans are leaving the stadium. It's getting ugly. It's not just Jones, but Daboll might want to sit him.


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I don't think Jones was very good even at his best but he's worse now than he was in 2022. I just don't think he's recovered from those injuries. Just my opinion fellas.


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I don't think Jones really came back from his injuries. I think he's a diminished player, not even what he was a couple of years ago.


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Quote from: MagicRat on September 08, 2024, 02:43:13 PMWhere do we ho from here?
Clean house again?
Or give this GM/coach combo a go around with their own QB?

What do you mean? Jones IS their QB! Who do you think gave him that huge contract?


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