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Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 06:03:19 AMTell that to MVP QB Lamar Jackson.

Seriously, it's not like officials forced the Giants to punt when DJ's legs pick up a first down.  It's not like officials tell the score keeper to remove that touchdown because DJ ran it in rather than threw it.   Yardage, first downs, and touchdowns all count the same regardless if DJ got them through the air or on the ground.

Jackson can throw the ball downfield while scrambling and running or from the pocket and not get hurt to the point of losing a massive amount of time. 

Torn ACL, and several neck injuries have resulted in him not protecting himself by sliding or giving himself up. Not being available for 21 games out of 81 or 26%. All of his injuries are not from poor protection but poor judgment, stubbornness and too dumb to learn how to slide. 

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Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 14, 2024, 04:34:31 PMIt is the fact that the opportunity to set the tone and intensity is so reduced that what opportunity is there needs to be addressed with a sense of urgency.  I don't think we saw that last year.  My hope is that it changes this year.  But the early signs from rookie camp don't give me the warm fuzzies.

You make me wonder if Daboll survives another bad season.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 14, 2024, 07:46:46 PMHe's paid to throw the ball. Quarterback.

Let's see how he does this year in the pocket.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 14, 2024, 07:45:19 PMHow many rushing yards did Jones contribute?

He's paid to throw the ball. Quarterback.

Quote from: todge on May 14, 2024, 07:10:56 PMEd: no one has confirmed why Daboll ran a simplified offense that year. But did you ever consider it was constructed that way to accommodate an awful pass blocking OL and a WR corp lacking of any talent?

As to the Vikings - Jones passed for 300 yards and ran for 100 while Barkley ran for 53 yards. Why did Barkley struggle against a weak defense and Jones didn't?


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Barkley ran for 84 yards and Jones 34. Against Indy Jones passes for 177 yards. He passed for 135 and 169 yards against Philly. He passed for 300 yards three times that year and two times against Minnesota. Twelve games of 200 yards or less. So no.

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Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 14, 2024, 05:59:33 PMDo you see McFadden as a good fit for this system?

Perhaps not.

Quote from: Fletch on May 14, 2024, 01:58:33 PMJust stop with this xxxxxxxx already. Daniel Jones on the Lions would look like Daniel Jones. A low skilled passer who cannot make decisions in the pocket. The day Daniel Jones is ever considered a pro bowl player in either college or the Pros will be the first time. The day Daniel Jones is considered a top 10 QB in Passing yards per game; passing TDs; Passes completed like Goff has in several seasons will be the first time; both college and pros.

Russ Wilson has little to do with Goff. He is much younger and has already had success on another team. The whole idea of building around Stafford is really puzzling to me. They decided to build around Goff by trading Stafford for boat load of picks. The Lions were not a good team instantly but, eventually they are hitting their stride after developing talent and lots of it they got in the trade.

THe book is not closed on Goff because he got traded and had a bad year on the Rams. The Rams were in win now mode with a QB in a slump or at worst and in a bad contract. That is neither here nor there.

The Lions have little choice but to pay Goff. They are a playoff team. The Giants are not and had every reason to move on from Jones.

He puts up the yards but he's averaged 23 TD's a season, had three years with the Rams and Lions where he had avg. 20 TD's a season and his career Rating and QBR are just ok. He's one of the better middle of the pack QB's but this contract is ridiculous. He's the second highest-paid QB in the league.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 14, 2024, 01:35:39 PMTwo must-win games where Jones did the opposite of choke

Almost 500 yards rushing in those three games where the Giants lost one against teams that have up 25 points a game average. The Vikings had one of the worst passing Defenses in the league that year giving up 4500 yards.

Not bad for a game manager.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 14, 2024, 12:38:27 PMIt seems like you refuse to give Jones any credit for the team's success, but are more than willing to blame him for the team's shortcomings.

To the last 8 games, to avoid that issue, I will look at how Jones did

From last to earliest

Opponent -- QB rating -- QBR -- PFF grade

Eagles -- 53.8 -- 11.7 -- 46.7
Vikings -- 114.1 -- 82.5 -- 80.9
Colts -- 125.2 -- 97.0 -- 81.9
Vikings -- 92.8 -- 59.1 -- 85.3
Washington -- 77.6 -- 76.8 -- 75.8
Eagles -- 96.1 -- 77.0 -- 78.0
Washington -- 104.3 -- 32.5 -- 68.4
Cowboys -- 88.8 -- 60.9   -- 50.8

So to answer your question, the team didn't do that well, but more often than not Jones played well.

Thanks to the Vikings and Dolts.

I have to disagree about the needs and they omitted Adoree Jackson as a loss.

RB and TE will not likely be a signing priority. I'd like a veteran CB but there is no way the Eli/Anne act come back to town. They should have resigned Leo Williams. It was a good trade but he was available at the end of the season.

Quote from: Painter on May 14, 2024, 12:07:49 PMWink's approach was of little benefit to the Giants Rushing Defense whereas Bowen's has had a good history in that area. As for what Burns may or may not bring to the table, it's hard to imagine that Bowen played no role in the decision to trade for him. We shall see, I reckon.

Cheers!

The absence of a solid 3T and two Receivers who will struggle in Run Support is somewhat concerning for me. Zone coverage will require the ILB's to have Coverage responsibilities. Read and React. I hope it doesn't take three games to get up to speed.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 14, 2024, 12:05:02 PMHow did Jones get to the position to be "spanked" by the Eagles in the playoffs?

By a brilliant Offensive drafted by Daboll to disguise Jones deficiencies and work to his Run Strength. Saquon, Dink, Dunk, Read option. Then at the end of the season the league figured it out and they got lucky to face the lousy Vikings Defense. How did those last eight games go again?