Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on Today at 12:22:29 AMWhat a wildly disingenuous and self-serving statement.
I would say this is beneath you, but putting those who disagree with you into an illogical, inaccurate, and indeed ridiculous box to make your own opinions seem correct by extension is not a new tactic. And even this very thread shows how your self-statedly "proper" assessment is out of line with reality. To wit, I literally noted I could see Jones repeating or improving somewhat on 2022, but you ignored what I actually stated in responding to me in favor of what you find easier to attack.
Divergence of opinions is fine, and indeed healthy. Willfully misstating another's opinion because you disagree with it is dishonest and unworthy of recognition.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 30, 2024, 09:41:40 PMThis is a very inaccurate framing of the sides and the issues. Based on this very thread, here is a proper description of the "sides."- On the one hand, you have people who are saying not to write Jones off just yet. They are not saying he will, but they are not ruling out the possibility that he will be successful again like he was in 2022. On the other side, you have people who are so certain of their assessments that Jones is a terrible or "middling" QB that they insist there is no possibility Jones can have another successful season, despite the, at least on paper, improvement of his support.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 30, 2024, 08:32:07 PMI agree. Bradshaw is pushing 80. He has had that job forever, plus he made plenty of money as a player. There aren't many NFL fans left who even remember him as a player.
Time to give an ex-player with a more direct understanding of the modern NFL a chance. Same with Johnson and others. Where does it say these guys get tenure?
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 30, 2024, 09:41:40 PMThis is a very inaccurate framing of the sides and the issues. Based on this very thread, here is a proper description of the "sides."- On the one hand, you have people who are saying not to write Jones off just yet. They are not saying he will, but they are not ruling out the possibility that he will be successful again like he was in 2022. On the other side, you have people who are so certain of their assessments that Jones is a terrible or "middling" QB that they insist there is no possibility Jones can have another successful season, despite the, at least on paper, improvement of his support.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 30, 2024, 09:03:10 PMWho Starts? As the roster stands today before we have any camp cuts or additional signings there are several spots up for grabs. I'm going to list the open positions as I see them and tell you who I project to start, could be a dark horse candidate, or maybe the answer is not on the roster currently.
Who do you have currently?
1. CB2- I actually have Flott starting here over McCloud, Robinson, Hawkins, and Phillips.
2. Slot- Currently I have Phillips as my starter in the slot with Belton as the heavy nickel and Mills as the 4th corner in dime packages.
3. Safety- I have Pinnock locked into the FS spot and Nubin penciled in as the SS with Belton being the 3rd while backing up Nubin and Owens backing up Pinnock. I think Mills floats which is why I don't have him listed here.
4. MLB2- Isaiah Simmons, I think our DC finally places Simmons in a starting role with Muassu technically being behind him and McFadden behind Bobby OK
5. LDE- I have Dex and RNR starting, I have Riley taking snaps at LDE until we sign someone to compete with Davidson and Phillips rotating with the 3. I expect 2 signings here.
6. WR lineup- To start the season I don't have Nabers in the starting lineup. I have Slayton X, Wandale slot, Hyatt Z, and McKenzie as the top 4. Daboll has brought every Wr he's drafted in slow and made them earn time. I think that us your top 4 with Nabers taking reps at every position slowly getting sprinkled in.
RB2- We have Singletary, he's the defacto but number 2 is wide open. One of the backs is going to show out in preseason and be that guy and my guess is Miller with Tracy as number 3. I think Gray got in the dog house last season and until he gets out I have to choose someone else.
TE- I am acting like Waller isn't coming back so I am taking Theo Johnson over Bellinger. My reasoning for that is them drafting Bellinger and then after his solid rookie year the trade for Waller, then the next year sign 2 TEs and draft another one. Obviously they don't like what they got with Bellinger and so if Theo shows a spark I look for him to get the nod over Bellinger.
Who do you have? Any darkhorses? Any players you see taking the next step?
For reference I didn't touch the Oline as I see it as Thomas, Runyan, JMS, Elemeunor, Neal until I see otherwise so there's not much to discuss.