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If you value explosiveness and don't mind overstocking a position, why not take Troy Franklin out of Oregon as another WR.  Explosive piece.  If he's the best out there and if the Eagles were loaded up at WR, they'd still take him.  Can't have enough BPA pieces either.

Leonard Taylor going from five star recruit to not drafted yet has my head spinning as he seems like an interesting mid-round choicd plus fills a big need at DT.

Giants need more explosiveness at RB as they simply don't have it.  I'd love to see them pick up Wright to fill that need.

I don't see any TE worth drafting as none stand out as a hidden gem to me.  All are plodders.  Would they look to draft Johnny Wilson from Florida State and move him to a role as a pass catching TE?  That would seem interesting to me.  He's 6'6"  and moves well for that size.  He's only been catching a ball for a short while so some development needed but I like his foundation.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:04:11 AMdrafted a safety and CB on day two?  It's not like they restocked in free agency

I read that the Giants do not want to play Mills at safety but to have him as a more versatile piece at CB.  That left only Pinnock and Belton so the need was obvious for safety.  Phillips drafted for primarily slot but also outside on occasion is as much about his physicality as it is about his versatility. 

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 12:18:17 AMCade Stover had the highest pass block rating of any TE in college...basically an extra offensive lineman. But we picked up two "block only" type TEs in FA, so probably won't happen. I think they like Theo, but your guess is as good as mine. Personally, if there is a RB they really like, they probably ought to get him because he won't be there in round 5...most likely

I want more of an Isaiah Likely.

Jaylen Wright would be someone I'd like.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 12:05:39 AMI think they might be looking at TEs. They brought in Theo Johnson (the only TE) for a visit. They also brought in RB Trey Benson (the only RB), but he's gone. DT's have been picked clean except for Gabe Hall. We're on the clock tomorrow with the 6th pick, I expect it could be TE Theo Johnson or TE Cade Stover, DT3 Gabe Hall, or maybe one of the RBs Jaylen Wright, Braelen Allen, or Ray Davis 

Yeah that's a good point about DTs being picked clean.  Hope it's a very athletic TE so not Cade Stover.

So do folks here like the 2nd and 3rd round picks?

I think we lost our shot at the best Day 1 starting Guards.  Zinter was the last.  My guess is they like their FA signings.

Looks like DT and RB are their holes they may focus on.

I feel like they may take a guard now

I guess his pursuit speed is the ding on him.  Said if a CB loses his guy, Nubin may not get there quickly enough to cover him.

His instincts are off the charts.  Saban loved him.

Safeties will be there at 47 I think

Trading back from 47 does not feel good.

Great idea.  Would be worth taking the call if the Pats.  Surround Maye with some NFL proven players.

Good suggested players to get.

If DJ got to 12th (where Hurts is), I dont think we'd have the Eagles record because they have so many better players than the Giants do.  To be the Eagles DJ would have to be more like 5th - 7th or 12th with all the Giants players getting much better.

I doubt DJ can be 5th-7th.

That's how I see it.

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on April 26, 2024, 11:34:40 AMI mean DJ didn't have trouble throwing downfield when his OL was blocking even a little better than last years cluster**** That isn't my worry. It's simply staying healthy but that Schoen just brought in 5 OL and the OL coach. That OL coach may have been the biggest acquisition of the offseason including Nabers and I ain't kiddin'

He does not naturally downfield like some throwers and see a typical NFL tight window and throws it there.  Instead he bails and throws a much shorter outlet pass.  He needs to be bolder mentally.  I think he is plenty accurate to make those throws.

Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 10:50:01 AMThis team still has a ways to go to get back to where we want to be but three years ago the only Giant you could point to and say that he has pro bowl/all pro potential was Barkley. At that point Lawrence was still a bit of a disappointment.

Today is a completely different story.  We have guys like Thomas, Okereke, Lawrence, Burns and Thibs who are at that level or are on the cusp of being in that discussion. Then we have several young guys (Nabers, Hyatt and Banks) who have the physical tools to develop into outstanding NFL players but the school is still out on. Now if we can only find a quarterback....

The point of this post is that I understand why some posters feel lost and frustrated that we aren't improving but we are. The level of talent on the roster is the best it's been in close to a decade. It isn't being felt yet due to poor quarterback play or age but you can't deny that we've accumulated some really nice pieces.

Good post and a fair assessment.  In looking at the names you listed, I conclude that more of the defensive players are either there or ready to emerge and that the offensive players may be earlier in their development.  All need to continue developing.

Maybe Shane Bowen will max the defensive talent in a way that Wink did not.

That said, the OL must (no MUST) make the greatest leap as a position group.  That should benefit everyone on offense.

Then all eyes will be on the QB.  I hope he pulls a Rich Gannon type career and finds his groove later in his career like now.